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  • nascar00
    started a topic Nebraska Shotgun Season.

    Nebraska Shotgun Season.

    With a lot of talk on here about low Deer tag sales in Nebraska. I propose NGPC have a combo Season, Muzzleloader/ Shotgun (slugs) Season. Use the same dates just allow Shotguns as well. Greg Wagner stated on KFAB Radio there was only 16,000 statewide MLZ tags sold. This would boost sales.

  • LoveTheOutdoors
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    One change I wouldn't mind seeing is a "Primitive" weapons tag. Essentially combining archery and muzzloader into one tag. Tag would be good for either season, and the general regs would apply (statewide any deer for archery, and statewide any deer except MD in the MDCA). Harvest rates are historically about the same between the two, and it would give hunters one more tag option (if I don't fill my archery tag, I can break out the muzzleloader in December). I'd gladly pay $60 for this type of tag.

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  • 10_point_buck
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    I have not purchased a mz tag in years. My unit I hunt for rifle is seeing high numbers of deer and my group get 5-8 during rifle season, there is no reason to hunt as we get enough meat in November. Weather in December is usually more bad than good, keeps me home

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  • huntineveryday
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    I haven't bought a muzzleloader tag since my area became a MDCA. I usually end up hunting more with my muzzleloader than rifle most years. Next time I don't draw the MDCA tag I will buy one.

    I'm sure I'm not the only one, so this has to pull numbers for muzzleloader permits down some.

    And most years if I can't find a nice mule deer buck I hunt public ground for a whitetail to find the tag. I've had enough success the last week of season doing so that I'd say the notion you can't find deer on public during December is completely false. You have to hunt them differently, but it can be done consistently.

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  • tango20
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    If it is about money bring back the $10 Mountain Lion Permit. I bought one just to make sure I didn't see one !

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  • shb
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    If you don't have private land access your options are extremely limited.


    By the time you get to December there's a better chance of seeing a polar bear on NE public land than a deer.


    Low numbers of deer left on public land.

    Extremely jumpy/educated deer

    Poor weather

    = Reduced ability to show off on social media

    = Decreased muzzleloader participation

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  • BTP738
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    As of 0950 this morning there has been a total of 7164 muzzleloader permits sold for the 2018 season.

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  • bwese
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    Originally posted by Lenny View Post
    Going to throw it out there and suggest that the decline in muzzleloader tag is due to more people purchasing the statewide buck only tags valid during all three seasons. Not necessarily a decline in participation just people are using different tag. I have not purchased a muzzleloader only tag since the SWBO tag was introduced.
    This.

    I too made the switch to this tag.This makes the most sense for decline. If it is indeed the case then they are making more money via statewide buck tag than the "missing" muzzle sales would add.

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  • Old Nebraska Guy
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    I can only speculate as I have no connection to Game & Parks

    IIRC, December of 2010 had two major snowstorms around a foot of snow both times. I had a place on the Platte to hunt that I couldn't get to plus the weather was just miserable. Weather is factor why firearm season isn't moved to December.

    The EHD epidemic of 2012 culled the herd significantly. People quit buying Muzzleloading permits because the weren't that many deer to hunt. This carried over for a few more years.

    The Unrestricted Statewide Buck Permit came into existence sometime during this time. If unfilled by December it can be used to hunt with a muzzleloader.
    I actually have been buying it for several years as I have places to hunt in three different firearm zones and I try to spend a day or two at each place, just because I can. This year I filled it and bought a muzzleloading permit but the holidays and the weather have pretty much turned it to tag soup.

    I sure the way the MDCA firearm tags are structured now would affect it.

    This is highly unlikely but, it could be a recurring typo. Put a one if front of the number I posted and we have permit numbers consistent with the archery numbers. Again I think, historically, the number of muzzleloading permits have always been close to the number of archery permits.

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  • Lenny
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    Going to throw it out there and suggest that the decline in muzzleloader tag is due to more people purchasing the statewide buck only tags valid during all three seasons. Not necessarily a decline in participation just people are using different tag. I have not purchased a muzzleloader only tag since the SWBO tag was introduced.

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  • LoveTheOutdoors
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    Originally posted by Old Nebraska Guy View Post

    From the Big Game Guides
    2006--16293
    2007--16077
    2008--15199
    2009--14490
    2010--11484
    2011--10389
    2012--
    2013--
    2014--
    2015---7541
    2016---7742
    2017---7497

    Also, I believe a scoped inline will out perform any smooth bore slug gun for range and accuracy except for the ease and speed of reloading.
    Most of the time, with care, one shot is enough.

    A rifled slug barrel for a shotgun will still not match the performance of a scoped inline.
    Wow, looks like muzzleloader tag sales have been declining for a while; but if 16k have been sold this year that's a 100% increase YOY, and is in line with sales from 10 years ago. If that's the case, why do need "new" regulations to incentivize sales? How are the MDCA tags taken into consideration, since they're valid for both rifle and muzzleloader sessions, and when did those regulations go into effect? Does that explain some of the tag sales decrease over the past decade?

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  • elkstalkr
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    Tag sales for muzzie certainly have dropped! Wonder why that is? Probably a combination of factors.

    I agree. Scoped muzzleloaders are much more accurate than a slug gun for stand hunting. Many Iowans used them during shotgun season until they just recently legalized straight wall cartridge rifles.

  • Old Nebraska Guy
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    Originally posted by elkstalkr View Post
    Only 16,000 tags sold.......How many do they typically sale? Just how low is that number compared to historical sales?
    From the Big Game Guides
    2006--16293
    2007--16077
    2008--15199
    2009--14490
    2010--11484
    2011--10389
    2012--
    2013--
    2014--
    2015---7541
    2016---7742
    2017---7497

    Also, I believe a scoped inline will out perform any smooth bore slug gun for range and accuracy except for the ease and speed of reloading.
    Most of the time, with care, one shot is enough.

    A rifled slug barrel for a shotgun will still not match the performance of a scoped inline.
    Last edited by Old Nebraska Guy; 12-30-2018, 10:09 PM. Reason: added another thought

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  • Chunky Tuna
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    OR, one permit per person( unlimited one and done), any weapon of choice, statewide, either sex, Sep 1 - Jan 15, res and non res. Price ?????

  • Lenny
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    Missed it if you did Cougar
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