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      #32


      #19.4

      piscatorious wrote

      "Well, there is absolutely no scientific reasoning behind expanding crossbow deer license availability so don't try to make that claim. The only driving reasons behind the expansion were monetary and convenience."

      Well....
      What scientific reasoning exists for having ANY archery season?




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        #33
        Originally posted by Old Nebraska Guy View Post

        #19.4

        piscatorious wrote

        "Well, there is absolutely no scientific reasoning behind expanding crossbow deer license availability so don't try to make that claim. The only driving reasons behind the expansion were monetary and convenience."

        Well....
        What scientific reasoning exists for having ANY archery season?



        I never said, or even insinuated, there was one. I just referenced a clearly obvious fact.

        IMO, if, and when, people get too old or frail to pull back a standard type bow they should opt for a rifle permit, and if they like spending time in nature because the archery season is longer then they can go for a walk and set in a tree with a camera.

        I'm free to have an opinion, I don't need scientific reasoning to dislike crossbows.

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          #34
          well,
          you did bring it up

          my opinion is that someone doesn't want anyone else hunting while they are out.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Old Nebraska Guy View Post
            well,
            you did bring it up

            my opinion is that someone doesn't want anyone else hunting while they are out.
            Well, actually, no I didn't bring it up, someone else did. I was just responding to their comment and reference.

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              #36
              yah know, if you're lucky, we/you will get old.

              And after a couple of decades of pulling 70 pounds a few hundred times a week the old rotator cuff starts to act up. I guess we/you could hang it up as some suggest, but, as I approach that magic age, I passed that three score and ten line a few years ago, I am unwilling to sit on the porch and rock. So far I have been able to get along by detuning the compound to about 40# and I don't shake yet when I'm at full draw. But that time is coming and if it didn't cost a grand to get a crossbow I might have one now. I like to hunt in October especially after a frost kills the bugs, November can be iffy weather-wise , this year the weekends were brutal, and December is cold.

              I should use all caps to emphasize that I'm still going to hunt with the three weapons in the three seasons, I'm not going to quit and I don't like somebody telling me I should.

              Put a camera up and take a walk??? bull

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              • DeadSpool
                DeadSpool commented
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                Nobody is telling or even implying that you to quit hunting. I would never want to exclude someone from hunting just because they physically can't draw a bow.

                For me it is simply a matter of the hunting experience and I much prefer a bow for archery season as long as I can go full draw. I will switch to a x-bow the day I feel I can't use a bow anymore.

              #37
              So how about a non scientific reason to have an archery season?

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                #38
                Originally posted by Old Nebraska Guy View Post
                But that time is coming and if it didn't cost a grand to get a crossbow I might have one now.
                You should buy one now! You can easily get a quality US made crossbow for under $700. In fact I know of one that sales for $550 that will give years of service.

                You certainly dont have to spend 1k to get a nice quality bow.

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                  #39
                  Oh the Drama on here!

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                    #40
                    • The earliest mention of anything related to a crossbow that I could find actually comes from the Bible, in reference to the ballista. A ballista was an ancient missile weapon that launched a large projectile at a distant target, and the design is very similar to that of the handheld crossbow. In II Chronicles 26:15, it is revealed that King Uzziah (reigned circa 783 BC to 742 BC) “made in Jerusalem engines, invented by cunning men, to be on the towers and upon the bulwarks, to shoot arrows an...
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                      #41
                      I have used a crossbow for about 4 yrs now. Before that I shot compounds bows. Mostly Brownings. My favorite one was My Browning Super Excellerator. I still have that bow and use it for Carp. Made Mid 80s ? I have no better success with the crossbow than I did before. My range has not increased. The crossbows are so loud that you risk them jumping the string. As far as these guys saying it takes so much more practice to shoot a compound. I Never practiced that much with my compound. Some years I grabbed it off the rack and went Turkey or Deer hunting. Never had a problem. Crossbows are not as easy to shoot as people think do not have a very good trigger and with the " lock Time " follow through is very important. And a second shot if you miss and they are still there? Forget About it.

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                      • DeadSpool
                        DeadSpool commented
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                        So, no better success? So, barring a problem with you physically, why did you switch?

                      #42
                      Any chance someone could create a survey? I'm curious how many would be against a youth rifle weekend in October. I'm guessing it would be a small percentage against it but I could be wrong.

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                        #43
                        Originally posted by Old Nebraska Guy View Post
                        yah know, if you're lucky, we/you will get old.

                        And after a couple of decades of pulling 70 pounds a few hundred times a week the old rotator cuff starts to act up. I guess we/you could hang it up as some suggest, but, as I approach that magic age, I passed that three score and ten line a few years ago, I am unwilling to sit on the porch and rock. So far I have been able to get along by detuning the compound to about 40# and I don't shake yet when I'm at full draw. But that time is coming and if it didn't cost a grand to get a crossbow I might have one now. I like to hunt in October especially after a frost kills the bugs, November can be iffy weather-wise , this year the weekends were brutal, and December is cold.

                        I should use all caps to emphasize that I'm still going to hunt with the three weapons in the three seasons, I'm not going to quit and I don't like somebody telling me I should.

                        Put a camera up and take a walk??? bull
                        Hmmm.....You just proved my point. When someone can't manage a standard bow they could then apply for a disability crossbow permit.

                        Maybe I'm lucky but I'm at that 70 age slot & can still shoot a standard recurve quite effectively. In fact, I've never hunted deer or turkey with anything other than a recurve and only shot a compound, a friend's, once. I started with a 45# Shakespeare in the mid '60s, graduated to a 50# Kodiak in '71, then to a 52# Kodiak Magnum and in 2010 backed off to a 46# Kodiak Magnum. I've never found reason to go above 52# because I will never shoot over 25 yds, and most shots are at 10 to 15 yds. I still have all of those bows and can shoot every one accurately. I enjoy the challenge of getting my prey close. To each his own, I guess, but as long as I can walk & drag a deer out of the woods I'll be shooting a recurve. When I can't do that I'll quit.

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                          #44
                          Just switched because it was something different. Same reason I sometimes take a Handgun During Firearm season.

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                            #45
                            I would like to go to bring up why is there no Muzzleloader Antelope doe/ Fawn season? My unit (Garden) gives out 32 tags general rifle tags total. As a NR I can't get a buck tag, the D/F are $183!!! I have 300 standing 200 yards from my house. I can't make a 2 mile circle and see over 1000 tearing up every wheat and alfalfa field they walk on. The farmers hate them beg me to shoot them but yet I can't get a reasonable late season tag? Come on NGP... Missing the boat here.

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