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    #31
    That’s my point... I teach AP statistics. One huge no no is to create misleading graphs.

    If I don’t see the name of my favorite lake on the list, I want to know why. No fish? Wasn’t sampled?

    If ngpc is only sampling certain lakes and putting putting them on the list, it creates the APPEARANCE that lakes not on the list do not have fish.

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      #32
      If there weren't any fish sampled in a lake then it would be on the graph with no bar next to it. If its not there it wasn't sampled. There's nothing misleading about any of this.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Springer owner View Post
        That’s my point... I teach AP statistics. One huge no no is to create misleading graphs.

        If I don’t see the name of my favorite lake on the list, I want to know why. No fish? Wasn’t sampled?

        If ngpc is only sampling certain lakes and putting putting them n othe list, it creates the APPEARANCE that lakes not on the list do not have fish.
        As a teacher, you should also know to read beyond the introduction. The annual fishing forecast is kind of like a chapter summary. Main points and highlights of what is covered in another more detailed report. Cliff's Notes

        The fishing forecast doesn't equal the fish sampling report. Even there you won't find the minutia that you seem to expect. Since you joined in 2009, Daryl has stated time and again that not every water body is sampled, not every fish is targeted. There are an infinite number of factors that might influence data collected... Weather conditions, water levels and differences in seasonal progression year to year are natural variables, just as budgets, equipment and manpower availability are human influenced factors. Sampling data on lakes should only be compared to data on the same lake, and even then interpreted with a grain of salt.

        The basis of each graph is clearly labeled (per trap net, per hour of electrofishing...)
        " A brave man likes the feel of nature on his face, Jack." - Wang Chi

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          #34
          Originally posted by Springer owner View Post
          That’s my point... I teach AP statistics. One huge no no is to create misleading graphs.

          If I don’t see the name of my favorite lake on the list, I want to know why. No fish? Wasn’t sampled?

          If ngpc is only sampling certain lakes and putting putting them on the list, it creates the APPEARANCE that lakes not on the list do not have fish.
          G&P does a great job sampling lakes and providing us with annual results. Sorry that's not enough for you, Mr. AP statistics teacher.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Springer owner View Post
            That’s my point... I teach AP statistics. One huge no no is to create misleading graphs.

            If I don’t see the name of my favorite lake on the list, I want to know why. No fish? Wasn’t sampled?

            If ngpc is only sampling certain lakes and putting putting them on the list, it creates the APPEARANCE that lakes not on the list do not have fish.
            I guess the way I look at it, the graphs aren't misleading. For a graph to be misleading it would have to misrepresent the fish population in the lake associated with that graph, but that's not the case here.

            I also don't feel because a lake is not listed it gives the appearance that lake does not have fish, though if a person has never seen the yearly fishing forecast and didn't know they've existed, they may wonder about a lake not showing up the first time they find the forecast. But then they may sit back and think about it for a bit and realize the G&P cannot sample every lake every year, so each year's forecast is for the lakes they were able to sample that year. They could then confirm this by looking back at previous forecasts to see what lakes were sampled in those years.

            In my case I look at the forecast each year and thank God my favorite lake didn't make the list that year. If fact I heard my favorite lake was sampled last summer, yet I don't see it on the list. Now there's a conspiracy for you.
            Whoever said cats always land on their feet wasn't throwing them right.-Anonymous

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            • whitetips
              whitetips commented
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              What lake was that?

              Daryl B.

            • nehunter88
              nehunter88 commented
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              Nice try. LOL

              Let's just say I talked to someone who said he had to help the guys that were sampling the lake. But I didn't see it on this years list of lakes.

              If you'd like to send me a PM we can talk about it.

            #36
            The PDF File (2019 Forecast) is messed up, hope it didn't go to print that way..........

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            • whitetips
              whitetips commented
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              It did not go to print that way.

              I immediately told someone that the graphs were not right.

              Waiting for it to be fixed.

              Daryl B.

            #37
            Just curious. When are the Fish Sampling reports from 2018 going to be posted?

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              #38
              Originally posted by DS13 View Post
              Just curious. When are the Fish Sampling reports from 2018 going to be posted?
              The first ones will be posted any day now. Waiting on web masters.

              Daryl B.
              Daryl Bauer
              Fisheries Outreach Program Manager
              Nebraska Game & Parks Commission
              daryl.bauer@nebraska.gov
              http://ourdoornebraska.ne.gov/blogs/category/barbs-and-backlashes/

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                #39
                Looking forward to getting a hard copy at the ice fishing clinic in Kearney Saturday....

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                  #40
                  Originally posted by bluelund View Post
                  Looking forward to getting a hard copy at the ice fishing clinic in Kearney Saturday....
                  Hard copies were delivered yesterday, I will have a pile with me on Saturday!

                  Daryl B.
                  Daryl Bauer
                  Fisheries Outreach Program Manager
                  Nebraska Game & Parks Commission
                  daryl.bauer@nebraska.gov
                  http://ourdoornebraska.ne.gov/blogs/category/barbs-and-backlashes/

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                  • bluelund
                    bluelund commented
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                    Knew you would come through!!! Now we just have to make sure the clinic doesn’t get snowed out.

                  #41
                  Was any sampling done at Olive Creek after the fish kill? Do they know what survived?
                  NEMUDHOLANGLR

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                    #42
                    Originally posted by Miltoid View Post
                    Was any sampling done at Olive Creek after the fish kill? Do they know what survived?
                    That was a tragedy. Hoping the fish in Olive Creek can bounce back.

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                      #43
                      The kill sucked. I was waiting on those saugeye to grow a bit bigger
                      " A brave man likes the feel of nature on his face, Jack." - Wang Chi

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                        #44
                        Originally posted by Miltoid View Post
                        Was any sampling done at Olive Creek after the fish kill? Do they know what survived?
                        They did enough sampling to know that the kill was NOT complete. There are still some good panfish there.

                        Daryl B.
                        Daryl Bauer
                        Fisheries Outreach Program Manager
                        Nebraska Game & Parks Commission
                        daryl.bauer@nebraska.gov
                        http://ourdoornebraska.ne.gov/blogs/category/barbs-and-backlashes/

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                          #45
                          Originally posted by whitetips View Post

                          They did enough sampling to know that the kill was NOT complete. There are still some good panfish there.

                          Daryl B.
                          GREAT NEWS!

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