Thunder Collins Arrested For Murder

[tmn515]

Originally Posted by magnusthebigbrownlab

That statement may perhaps be the single dumbest thing I've ever heard in my entire life. Let's just let all the rapists and child molesters who happen to be able to run a 4.5 40 out of prison, throw them in a uniform and HOPE that they don't end up continuing to be the criminals that they truly are. Forget the judicial system, let's just suit them up in red and white.

Tom Osborne was a good coach...period. But LP was the skidmark in the tightie whities that are TO.

You get out a lot Magnus? Wow, a little extreme on your comparisons? Did I ever say that he wasn't a bad person, no. I am just saying that 2nd chances in life don't always pan out the way that LP's did. Now, saying that, there are crimes that I believe don't deserve a second chance. obviously.

Tom Osborne asked LP to do a set number of things, which LP did, therefore LP was allowed to play.

Where do chimos and rapists come into play in this conversation, even if they are being used as a comparison? That sir is being out of touch with reality.

Troy

[tmn515]

Originally Posted by magnusthebigbrownlab

When Chewey got caught trying to play hide the sausage with underage girls, they threw his white arse off the team and if I remember correctly, he spent some time behind bars. Favre was being was taking a boatload of "vicodin", but his drugs were prescribed, making them legal. Yep, he took too damn many, and got hooked, but he did the right thing in the end.

Ahman Green...another genuine Nebraskan piece of sh*t. Not one domestic assault arrest, but two. (Picked up in '99 while playing in Seattle). Recruited to the Huskers by...? None other than your own personal Jesus Christ...Tommy Boy.

I bet you think Brook Berringer is just another Nebraska piece of sh*t too. Take the good with the bad. There are convicts on every team.

Packers fan too? Bronco fan here...I just loved the 1997 Super Bowl

Troy

[Vikes forever]

Originally Posted by magnusthebigbrownlab

When Chewey got caught trying to play hide the sausage with underage girls, they threw his white arse off the team and if I remember correctly, he spent some time behind bars. Favre was being was taking a boatload of "vicodin", but his drugs were prescribed, making them legal. Yep, he took too damn many, and got hooked, but he did the right thing in the end.

Ahman Green...another genuine Nebraskan piece of sh*t. Not one domestic assault arrest, but two. (Picked up in '99 while playing in Seattle). Recruited to the Huskers by...? None other than your own personal Jesus Christ...Tommy Boy.

Spin it anyway you want, but it still doesn't make their actions right.

Chris Farely is my personal Jesus? Ehh, guess I could have done worse.

[danager]

This is a great argument. TO did indeed have a tough decision. From what I've seen of him as a coach/person/AD and the things you hear others say about him, I highly doubt he kept Phillips around for the wrong reasons. I don't remember alot of the details because I was young, but wasn't this thing taken to court and he was not completely charged? The rulings of the courts make a difference on how things are handled.

Also, speaking as a coach myself and from personal experience, there is a VERY FINE LINE between having a kid that is definitely screwing up and shouldn't be allowed to be back on the team AND having a kid screw up, face consequences and then keep him on a team, a team that may save his life. In T.O.'s mind, he may have thought that by keeping LP around would put him on track and actually save his life and that probably outweighed the thought of kicking him off of the team and back out on the streets. It's a tough decision...bottom line.

No matter what we all say, we also don't know ALL of the facts. None of us were in the program (that I know of). I will guarentee you though that TO spent many hours praying and thinking about the decision and he truely thought he made the right one. Someday, LP may figure it out.

[magnusthebigbrownlab]

Originally Posted by tmn515

I bet you think Brook Berringer is just another Nebraska piece of sh*t too. Take the good with the bad. There are convicts on every team.

Packers fan too? Bronco fan here...I just loved the 1997 Super Bowl

Troy

Nope...Brook Berringer was a solid human being. I loved watching him play. Thought he got the shaft in the National Championship game, getting benched so Tommie Frazier could get the start. Again, I've never really agreed with TO. I'm pretty much sure TO is actually Sloth. HEY YOU GUYS!

[magnusthebigbrownlab]

Originally Posted by tmn515

You get out a lot Magnus? Wow, a little extreme on your comparisons? Did I ever say that he wasn't a bad person, no. I am just saying that 2nd chances in life don't always pan out the way that LP's did. Now, saying that, there are crimes that I believe don't deserve a second chance. obviously.

Tom Osborne asked LP to do a set number of things, which LP did, therefore LP was allowed to play.

Where do chimos and rapists come into play in this conversation, even if they are being used as a comparison? That sir is being out of touch with reality.

Troy

There is little difference between a pederass or rapist and a goon who throws his girlfriend down the stairs. They are all much more deserving of two in the back of the head than a National Championship ring that they'll probably eventually hawk for bail money anyways.

[magnusthebigbrownlab]

Originally Posted by tmn515

Packers fan too? Bronco fan here...I just loved the 1997 Super Bowl

Troy

15 minutes of fame...hope you enjoyed it while it lasted.

[Fish On]

Originally Posted by magnusthebigbrownlab

15 minutes of fame...hope you enjoyed it while it lasted.

Actually closer to 1,051,200 minutes of fame....

[tmn515]

Originally Posted by magnusthebigbrownlab

15 minutes of fame...hope you enjoyed it while it lasted.

Maybe, but a lifetime of memories And we went back to back as we won in 98 as well

Lets end this mindless rambling, Go Huskers and Go Badgers today! Please beat Rich Rodriguez and those ******s! And while were at it, Broncos and Packers tomorrow!

Troy

[fish_finder]

Originally Posted by magnusthebigbrownlab

Had the GUTS to try to HELP him? You're kidding, right? How does putting a championship ring on the finger of a kid who should be serving time in prison HELP him? How does rewarding him with that honor do anything other than say "it's totally cool to throw your girlfriend down the stairs?"

Reward him? Maybe try and keep him in a program that cared for the kid and set some type of boundaries on how the kid had to behave. Yeah he proved he was a waste of Osborne's efforts but anyone can be a genius when you are looking at things after the fact. Yeah he shouldn't have thrown his girlfriend down the stairs. I would have thrown Frost down instead. J/K of course.

[magnusthebigbrownlab]

Originally Posted by fish_finder

Reward him? Maybe try and keep him in a program that cared for the kid and set some type of boundaries on how the kid had to behave. Yeah he proved he was a waste of Osborne's efforts but anyone can be a genius when you are looking at things after the fact. Yeah he shouldn't have thrown his girlfriend down the stairs. I would have thrown Frost down instead. J/K of course.

He was (and obviously still is) a 'effin criminal. He should have been in jail...not punished by boundaries set by Tom Osborne. His reward for his actions should have been late night visits by some big surly sonuvabiatch who wanted nothing more than to make Thunder squeal like a pig. Who the hell died and appointed Tom Osborne Jesus Christ?

[Vikes forever]

Originally Posted by magnusthebigbrownlab

He was (and obviously still is) a 'effin criminal. He should have been in jail...not punished by boundaries set by Tom Osborne. His reward for his actions should have been late night visits by some big surly sonuvabiatch who wanted nothing more than to make Thunder squeal like a pig. Who the hell died and appointed Tom Osborne Jesus Christ?

Ronald Reagan

[fish_finder]

Originally Posted by magnusthebigbrownlab

He was (and obviously still is) a 'effin criminal. He should have been in jail...not punished by boundaries set by Tom Osborne. His reward for his actions should have been late night visits by some big surly sonuvabiatch who wanted nothing more than to make Thunder squeal like a pig. Who the hell died and appointed Tom Osborne Jesus Christ?

See now that's a fair and balanced response that I would expect from a TO hater.

[magnusthebigbrownlab]

Fair and balanced? Tell ya what...go throw your girlfriend down the stairs and see what kind of legal reprocussions you face. I'll guaran-damn-tee ya that the outcome of your trial is far more "fair and balanced" than the "punishment" that fell on Phillips. You'll get three hots and a cot (and some taxpayer funded cable television) rather than the opportunity to play in a National Championship game. Your next romantic adventure will be from whoever decides to gang-rape you in the shower, not whichever drunk coed you can force your will upon like LP got to do. Fair and balanced...you crack me up. Where's the "Pot/Kettle/Black" smilie when you need it.

[Vikes forever]

Originally Posted by magnusthebigbrownlab

Fair and balanced? Tell ya what...go throw your girlfriend down the stairs and see what kind of legal reprocussions you face. I'll guaran-damn-tee ya that the outcome of your trial is far more "fair and balanced" than the "punishment" that fell on Phillips. You'll get three hots and a cot (and some taxpayer funded cable television) rather than the opportunity to play in a National Championship game. Your next romantic adventure will be from whoever decides to gang-rape you in the shower, not whichever drunk coed you can force your will upon like LP got to do. Fair and balanced...you crack me up. Where's the "Pot/Kettle/Black" smilie when you need it.

What's the deal with you and the whole prison rape thing?
Got to be a Green Bay/Becky Badger thing.

[magnusthebigbrownlab]

We've got a psychologist on our hands, ladies and gents... Don't ask why, but it reminds me of a joke.

A Packer fan, a Bears fan, and a Vikes fan were all taking a road trip to Canton to see the pro football Hall of Fame. They were hit by an 18 wheeler, and all three died instantly. The sherrif came out to the scene to clean up the mess, and came across the body of the Packer fan. He lifted the Packer cap off his skull to try to identify the body...took a couple notes and moved on. He came across the body of the Bears fan, lifted off the cap to try to identify the body...took a couple notes and moved on. Finally, he comes across the body of the Vikings fan...lifts the cap, and says, "That's a surprise." Another deputy says, "What's wrong...can't ID the body?" Sherrif responds, "That's not it at all...it's just been my experience that under every Vikings cap, you find an as*hole."

[fish_finder]

Originally Posted by magnusthebigbrownlab

Fair and balanced? Tell ya what...go throw your girlfriend down the stairs and see what kind of legal reprocussions you face. I'll guaran-damn-tee ya that the outcome of your trial is far more "fair and balanced" than the "punishment" that fell on Phillips. You'll get three hots and a cot (and some taxpayer funded cable television) rather than the opportunity to play in a National Championship game. Your next romantic adventure will be from whoever decides to gang-rape you in the shower, not whichever drunk coed you can force your will upon like LP got to do. Fair and balanced...you crack me up. Where's the "Pot/Kettle/Black" smilie when you need it.

Huh? I'm not the one getting all upset. Your previous post you said Thunder........next its LP. Now who is the one under arrest now for murder? LP is old news. Thunder is a former NU player with no ties to the program now. Get over yourself man. I've never defended either one. Only falsehood I've seen in this entire thread is you making TO out to be something he isn't. Anyways you get all riled up some more and post whatever you want but I wont judge you like you seem to judge others so freely.

[Vikes forever]

Originally Posted by fish_finder

Huh? I'm not the one getting all upset. Your previous post you said Thunder........next its LP. Now who is the one under arrest now for murder? LP is old news. Thunder is a former NU player with no ties to the program now. Get over yourself man. I've never defended either one. Only falsehood I've seen in this entire thread is you making TO out to be something he isn't. Anyways you get all riled up some more and post whatever you want but I wont judge you like you seem to judge others so freely.

This debate always cracks me up.
TO first and foremost was a football coach. What do football coaches want (and are paid) to do? WIN. Some make it less obvious than others, but for the most part they are all guilty of it.

[magnusthebigbrownlab]

Originally Posted by fish_finder

Huh? I'm not the one getting all upset. Your previous post you said Thunder........next its LP. Now who is the one under arrest now for murder? LP is old news. Thunder is a former NU player with no ties to the program now. Get over yourself man. I've never defended either one. Only falsehood I've seen in this entire thread is you making TO out to be something he isn't. Anyways you get all riled up some more and post whatever you want but I wont judge you like you seem to judge others so freely.

Hey...you're right. I did say Thunder when I was referring to LP. In fact, the quote that you're referring to was directly related to Phillps' playing in the National Championship. Typo...my bad.

Tell ya what...why don't you go ahead and tell us what Tom Osborne IS, since I've so accurately described him as something he apparently ISN'T.

I'll even help you out a bit.

Tom Osborne is:
A) Arguably the most legendary coach in Nebraska history.
B) A former politician elected by a populus who care far more about his coaching ability than representative ability.
C) The current Atheletic Director for the University of Nebraska.
D) A coach who was more than willing to allow thugs to roam the streets of Lincoln wearing university issued Nebraska letterman's jackets.
E) All of the above.

** For those of you who remember taking tests, when faced with multiple answers that are correct, the correct answer is nearly always "all of the above." **

[Catfishsteve]

I think that's about enough.

Let's remember that Thunder Collins is innocent until proven guilty. He's only been charged. We're not going to solve anything here.


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