Brett Favre

LundLover · 07-28-2008, 11:17 AM

I heard this morning that Brett DIDN'T show up for training camp.

What is he up to? Any theories?

**Mako** · 07-28-2008, 12:01 PM

Trying to get his way and get everything he wants, even though he's not always sure of what he wants.

**Chad** · 07-28-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LundLover

I heard this morning that Brett DIDN'T show up for training camp.

What is he up to? Any theories?

From what I heard, they didn't want him to show up at camp, so his agent said he would report as a way to force the Packers hand. The Packers really don't have a great reason to move him on quickly, besides bad press and distractions. Having Brett show up at camp would elevate both, and hence provide the organization some motivation.

Vikes forever · 07-28-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LundLover

I heard this morning that Brett DIDN'T show up for training camp.

What is he up to? Any theories?

My theory is that he is in some sort of coma right now from a deadly ****tail of Vicatin, Pabst Blue Ribbon and Copenhagen.

Sorry, couldn't resist!

dlwilson · 07-28-2008, 04:30 PM

He does like his PBR but who doesn't....don't fault him for that

Hopefully they get this ordeal over with quickly so I can find out what my new favorite team is. I'm hoping Favre doesn't go to the jets, that means I'll be cheering on a Callahan team again and I really, really hate that guy.

**Chad** · 07-28-2008, 04:51 PM

In so many decades of football, the Packers organization has endeared itself to all fans of football. Then this... oops!

I suspect there is blame to be cast on both sides, but probably more for Brett than the organization. Regardless, this was a DUMB move for the organization. Strategic priority number one should have been managing Brett's wanning years with patience and lots of latitude for the super star. They want to "Move On" ??? good luck with that.

This mismanagement will follow them for a LONG time.

magnusthebigbrownlab · 07-28-2008, 06:33 PM

This "mismanagement" will haunt the team for the first 4 games...until they start off the year 4-0 under the leadership of Rogers...and then all will be forgiven.

**Chad** · 07-28-2008, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by magnusthebigbrownlab

This "mismanagement" will haunt the team for the first 4 games...until they start off the year 4-0 under the leadership of Rogers...and then all will be forgiven.

Very true. Winning cures everything... mostly.

But, no way they start 4-0...

magnusthebigbrownlab · 07-28-2008, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chad

Very true. Winning cures everything... mostly.

But, no way they start 4-0...

Wager?

tjm · 07-28-2008, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LundLover

I heard this morning that Brett DIDN'T show up for training camp.

What is he up to? Any theories?

He has not filed the papers for reinstatement yet and the packers don't want him. No reason to show up.

Vikes forever · 07-28-2008, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by magnusthebigbrownlab

This "mismanagement" will haunt the team for the first 4 games...until they start off the year 4-0 under the leadership of Rogers...and then all will be forgiven.

Just keep telling yourself that.

**Chad** · 07-29-2008, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by magnusthebigbrownlab

Wager?

No thanks. Never have bet on sports and don't plan to any time soon.

**RedefiningFate** · 07-29-2008, 04:39 PM

I don't see a 4-0 start. However last year when Favre did come out of the Dallas game hurt. Rogers did perform better than Favre did during that game. In fact they almost (using the term loosely) made a comeback during that game.

Will they be a top team again this year, Yes. Simply because offenses win games and defenses win championships. Their defense is going to be their saving grace this year. They are young and fast and have some experience now. They have a lot of talent on offense, but it is young talent. This team has just been revamped and this year is a toss up with key trades and rookies off the draft. I give at most two years for them to make it back to the bowl.

Favre is in no doubt a great quarterback and I was sad to see him go. But he Packers organization is looking to move on and up and eventually he would come out of the game one way or another.

BTW I am a huge Green Bay fan...

Sticksnskullsia · 07-30-2008, 11:44 AM

It's time for him to go, he hung around to get his records.....most interceptions!?!?!!!! Tired of hearing about him.

**RedefiningFate** · 07-30-2008, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sticksnskullsia

It's time for him to go, he hung around to get his records.....most interceptions!?!?!!!! Tired of hearing about him.

He had these NFL records as well...

Career Passing Yards
Career Passing Attempts
Career Completions
Career Touchdown Passes
Career Wins as a Starting QB
Consecutive Games Started (2nd next to Jim Marshall)

Vikes forever · 07-30-2008, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RedefiningFate

He had these NFL records as well...

Career Passing Yards
Career Passing Attempts
Career Completions
Career Touchdown Passes
Career Wins as a Starting QB
Consecutive Games Started (2nd next to Jim Marshall)

He's just keeping them warm for P. Manning

**RedefiningFate** · 07-31-2008, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Vikes forever

He's just keeping them warm for P. Manning

That's probably a pretty true statement.

dlwilson · 08-02-2008, 10:37 AM

I'm still not buying into Aaron Rodgers. I really don't think that players on the packers think he is the guy either. Because this thing has become a soap opera lately most of the current players are being leary of what they say about who they want but remember just prior to Brett's "retirement aka being forced out" all the veteran players were pleading for him to come back. Rodgers has shown packer fans nothing other than the fact that he gets hurt on a regular basis. Hmmm...lets see should we go with a guy who stubs his toe and can't play for 2 months or the man who hasn't missed a start in 14 years..... wow hard choice!! This is clearly management sticking to thier guns whether it's right or wrong which is a dumb move. As far as that cowboy's game, I'm sure many of you saw the interview with the cowboys coach wade phillips on the NFL network who stated they played a basic base defense against rodgers and played mostly 2nd string defensive backs. I mean Roy Williams played the whole second half for dallas and he sucks at coverage. Their defense rarely blitzed Rodgers but they came after favre with about 7-8 guys almost every down which really worked. My prediction- with favre this year packers start 3-1, with rodgers 2-2 won mostly by strong defense and a running game if the packers are smart and sign grant to a respectable contract and stop messing around. With/without favre the packer running game and defense will make it a good team with playoff hopes but they are far better with brett at the helm.

Hunter · 08-03-2008, 01:03 PM

The commish reinstated him effective monday. The story also states that after reinstatement he can not veto any trades. I am sure that is partly the reason he has pulled all his crap. He was trying to get traded to a team he chooses instead of a team the packers can get the most value out of.

What would be funny as all hell would be for the packers to trade him to the worst team in the league with worst receivers and least chance of winning a game...........

that way the little egotistical puke gets what he deserves for being so wishy-washy and hanging the retirement thing over the packers head for so long.
He screwed over the packers by telling them he was done so they drafted 2 quarterbacks instead of other players that could have helped the team. He is just another one in the LONG LONG list of egotistical pukes who think they are more important than the team!!
Do you think he would actually play for a horrible team because he 'loves' the game or if he was going to be traded to a real loser he would just retire again?
Someone who actually 'loves the game' would play for anyone!!!!!!

I can not imagine one true PACKER fan that would actually stick up for this piece of ****. He is the one who is screwing over your TEAM. Unless you are dumb enough to think ONE person is more important than the TEAM then there is no way in hell a person could think Favre is not to blame for everything that is going on.

I am so sick of these ego-maniacs who think they are above the team. There needs to be more of what is happening to Barry Bonds in baseball........ act like you do and then you don't get to play anymore!!!

Rant over!!

dlwilson · 08-03-2008, 02:03 PM

Seriously...nice rant but I don't think you have all your facts straight on this one. As far as his retirement goes, it was the media and the packers front office that pushed the retirement issue 4 years ago under coach Sherman. When they went 5-11 and Favre had his worst year. Before the season was even close to over they brought up retirement and Favre never mentioned it until after the season was over. I'm not saying he's in the right on some things, he has held out too long mulling over his decisions at times but honestly who cares, it's his job not yours and it's not like he sucks. Flat out he still gives the packers the best chance to win and the fans absolutely love the guy and the way he plays. It truly is hard not to watch him play and enjoy it unless of course he's playing against your team. he flat out loves it and plays just like we all did back in high school....with passion and heart.

Your facts about the packers being able to trade him to anybody are also not true, he has a trade clause in his contract. If he didn't the packers would've welcomed him back the second he said he wanted to come back and then dumped him on the dolphins or somebody else who sucks. If he could be traded to anybody that was not his choice I doubt he would've signed for reinstatement. Favre has the upper hand in the situation and he deserves it. He was basically forced out by management who wanted to go in a diffent direction. If favre was above the team and above playing football then why did he just turn down a $25 million contract to keep him retired? Your point about playing for the love of the game makes no sense. When you are a great player who doesn't care about a salary anymore, why would you want to go play for a crap team when you are late in your career. Brett is coming back to take another shot at a super bowl and to play at a high level because face it he can and proved it last year. I'm sure good ole clean as a whistle Peyton Manning would do the same, even his dear old dad Archie wanted out of new orleans to go play for somebody better so don't tell me to play for the love of the game means you'll play for anybody no matter how bad they are; especially to players who have been in the league for a while, that's just absurd. New players will go anywhere just to play and because basically they don't know any better until they stay in the league for a while and learn how the NFL works.

As far as the draft goes, the 2 quarterbacks meant nothing the packers, they even said they were leaning that way anyway. the only pick that was a result of favre's retirement was drafting the LSU qb late who to be honest probably wasn't going to make the team anyway. They got who they wanted, they even stated that so that's not Favre's problem. By the way, he doesn't think he's above the team, he wanted back at green bay and they said no they were going in new direction which is why he asked for his release. If he was above the team he would've demanded a release first and never asked to come backto the packers. I enjoyed your rant but it's not factual at all except for the part about barry bonds.

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07-28-2008, 04:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
dlwilson Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ralston, Ne Posts: 185 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	He does like his PBR but who doesn't....don't fault him for that Hopefully they get this ordeal over with quickly so I can find out what my new favorite team is. I'm hoping Favre doesn't go to the jets, that means I'll be cheering on a Callahan team again and I really, really hate that guy.

07-29-2008, 04:39 PM	#13 (permalink)
RedefiningFate Director Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Millard Posts: 4,328 Thanks: 4 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I don't see a 4-0 start. However last year when Favre did come out of the Dallas game hurt. Rogers did perform better than Favre did during that game. In fact they almost (using the term loosely) made a comeback during that game. Will they be a top team again this year, Yes. Simply because offenses win games and defenses win championships. Their defense is going to be their saving grace this year. They are young and fast and have some experience now. They have a lot of talent on offense, but it is young talent. This team has just been revamped and this year is a toss up with key trades and rookies off the draft. I give at most two years for them to make it back to the bowl. Favre is in no doubt a great quarterback and I was sad to see him go. But he Packers organization is looking to move on and up and eventually he would come out of the game one way or another. BTW I am a huge Green Bay fan...

07-30-2008, 11:44 AM	#14 (permalink)
Sticksnskullsia Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Middle, Central, Midwestern Region Posts: 41 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It's time for him to go, he hung around to get his records.....most interceptions!?!?!!!! Tired of hearing about him.

08-02-2008, 10:37 AM	#18 (permalink)
dlwilson Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ralston, Ne Posts: 185 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I'm still not buying into Aaron Rodgers. I really don't think that players on the packers think he is the guy either. Because this thing has become a soap opera lately most of the current players are being leary of what they say about who they want but remember just prior to Brett's "retirement aka being forced out" all the veteran players were pleading for him to come back. Rodgers has shown packer fans nothing other than the fact that he gets hurt on a regular basis. Hmmm...lets see should we go with a guy who stubs his toe and can't play for 2 months or the man who hasn't missed a start in 14 years..... wow hard choice!! This is clearly management sticking to thier guns whether it's right or wrong which is a dumb move. As far as that cowboy's game, I'm sure many of you saw the interview with the cowboys coach wade phillips on the NFL network who stated they played a basic base defense against rodgers and played mostly 2nd string defensive backs. I mean Roy Williams played the whole second half for dallas and he sucks at coverage. Their defense rarely blitzed Rodgers but they came after favre with about 7-8 guys almost every down which really worked. My prediction- with favre this year packers start 3-1, with rodgers 2-2 won mostly by strong defense and a running game if the packers are smart and sign grant to a respectable contract and stop messing around. With/without favre the packer running game and defense will make it a good team with playoff hopes but they are far better with brett at the helm.

08-03-2008, 01:03 PM	#19 (permalink)
Hunter Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 146 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	The commish reinstated him effective monday. The story also states that after reinstatement he can not veto any trades. I am sure that is partly the reason he has pulled all his crap. He was trying to get traded to a team he chooses instead of a team the packers can get the most value out of. What would be funny as all hell would be for the packers to trade him to the worst team in the league with worst receivers and least chance of winning a game........... that way the little egotistical puke gets what he deserves for being so wishy-washy and hanging the retirement thing over the packers head for so long. He screwed over the packers by telling them he was done so they drafted 2 quarterbacks instead of other players that could have helped the team. He is just another one in the LONG LONG list of egotistical pukes who think they are more important than the team!! Do you think he would actually play for a horrible team because he 'loves' the game or if he was going to be traded to a real loser he would just retire again? Someone who actually 'loves the game' would play for anyone!!!!!! I can not imagine one true PACKER fan that would actually stick up for this piece of ****. He is the one who is screwing over your TEAM. Unless you are dumb enough to think ONE person is more important than the TEAM then there is no way in hell a person could think Favre is not to blame for everything that is going on. I am so sick of these ego-maniacs who think they are above the team. There needs to be more of what is happening to Barry Bonds in baseball........ act like you do and then you don't get to play anymore!!! Rant over!!

08-03-2008, 02:03 PM	#20 (permalink)
dlwilson Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ralston, Ne Posts: 185 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Seriously...nice rant but I don't think you have all your facts straight on this one. As far as his retirement goes, it was the media and the packers front office that pushed the retirement issue 4 years ago under coach Sherman. When they went 5-11 and Favre had his worst year. Before the season was even close to over they brought up retirement and Favre never mentioned it until after the season was over. I'm not saying he's in the right on some things, he has held out too long mulling over his decisions at times but honestly who cares, it's his job not yours and it's not like he sucks. Flat out he still gives the packers the best chance to win and the fans absolutely love the guy and the way he plays. It truly is hard not to watch him play and enjoy it unless of course he's playing against your team. he flat out loves it and plays just like we all did back in high school....with passion and heart. Your facts about the packers being able to trade him to anybody are also not true, he has a trade clause in his contract. If he didn't the packers would've welcomed him back the second he said he wanted to come back and then dumped him on the dolphins or somebody else who sucks. If he could be traded to anybody that was not his choice I doubt he would've signed for reinstatement. Favre has the upper hand in the situation and he deserves it. He was basically forced out by management who wanted to go in a diffent direction. If favre was above the team and above playing football then why did he just turn down a $25 million contract to keep him retired? Your point about playing for the love of the game makes no sense. When you are a great player who doesn't care about a salary anymore, why would you want to go play for a crap team when you are late in your career. Brett is coming back to take another shot at a super bowl and to play at a high level because face it he can and proved it last year. I'm sure good ole clean as a whistle Peyton Manning would do the same, even his dear old dad Archie wanted out of new orleans to go play for somebody better so don't tell me to play for the love of the game means you'll play for anybody no matter how bad they are; especially to players who have been in the league for a while, that's just absurd. New players will go anywhere just to play and because basically they don't know any better until they stay in the league for a while and learn how the NFL works. As far as the draft goes, the 2 quarterbacks meant nothing the packers, they even said they were leaning that way anyway. the only pick that was a result of favre's retirement was drafting the LSU qb late who to be honest probably wasn't going to make the team anyway. They got who they wanted, they even stated that so that's not Favre's problem. By the way, he doesn't think he's above the team, he wanted back at green bay and they said no they were going in new direction which is why he asked for his release. If he was above the team he would've demanded a release first and never asked to come backto the packers. I enjoyed your rant but it's not factual at all except for the part about barry bonds.