Ridding pond of Rough Fish?

Kayaker · 07-30-2008, 06:17 PM

My brother's pond has a creek next to it that flooded and overflowed into it. He has since built up a dike to keep this from happening again. He has now noticed carp, buffalo and other rough fish swimming in the pond.

What would be the best way to get rid of these? Would electro-shocking be a possibility? (Picking up the stunned rough fish while they're on the surface, and discarding) He really does not want to go the rotenone route, and start over.

Pond is about 5 acres, 12 feet deep, and also has bluegills, catfish, crappies and bass.

Thanks for any advice.

LundLover · 07-30-2008, 06:19 PM

An invite to many of the forum bow-fishermen would do wonders....

Kayaker · 07-30-2008, 08:39 PM

I forgot to mention by brother's pond is in Northern Iowa - 200 miles from here.

Shorty · 07-31-2008, 06:53 AM

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He really does not want to go the rotenone route, and start over.

If does not want to start over then he needs to keep his pond predator heavy with LMB and possibly northern pike or muskie to keep the reproduction of rough fish to a minimum. Electroshocking by itself will not rid the pond of a significant number of rough fish.

Fish Recycler · 07-31-2008, 08:43 AM

Yep, once they're there, they're there to stay unless you start over from scratch. He can probably "manage" them though, and predators are an important part of that.

A few other ideas:

Trap them (build and submerge a fish trap, and return desirable fish to the water, removing the undesirable fish)

Seine them (a large seine may help remove many fish)

Catch them with setlines or trotlines baited with corn (may also catch some desirable species, which can be released)

Invite some bowfishers to help thin the population

Cast net them (may have limited success, but will get some yoty fish

Spear them through the ice, over a chum pile (corn)

It's all just "maintenance" unless he wants to do a drain and restart or rotenone.

jimbosan · 07-31-2008, 05:13 PM

Dynamite!

**Ty S** · 07-31-2008, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish Recycler

Invite some bowfishers to help thin the population

Perhaps hold a tourney there?

obert · 08-03-2008, 03:33 PM

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fish Recycler

Invite some bowfishers to help thin the population

Perhaps hold a tourney there?

Sounds like you're in dire need of the BON.

Sticksnskullsia · 08-04-2008, 01:43 PM

I worked for as a fisheries tech for 3 years, the only way to rid a pond of the trash fish is rotenone. Electro-fishing it is just a feel good action and seining or trapping isn't going to get all of the trash fish either.

I would rotenone and start over.

huskerfan46 · 08-04-2008, 01:54 PM

Call me when they are in spawn and I will bring my bow!

Sorny · 08-04-2008, 03:24 PM

there is a bowfishing association of Iowa. I would get a hold of them and get them out there to do a shoot and kill the sobs.
Sorny

Kayaker · 08-05-2008, 07:08 PM

Thanks for all the advice / input, guys. Appreciate it! I will forward this to my brother.

Thanks, again!

07-30-2008, 06:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
Kayaker Kayaker has no status. Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Posts: 29 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ridding pond of Rough Fish? My brother's pond has a creek next to it that flooded and overflowed into it. He has since built up a dike to keep this from happening again. He has now noticed carp, buffalo and other rough fish swimming in the pond. What would be the best way to get rid of these? Would electro-shocking be a possibility? (Picking up the stunned rough fish while they're on the surface, and discarding) He really does not want to go the rotenone route, and start over. Pond is about 5 acres, 12 feet deep, and also has bluegills, catfish, crappies and bass. Thanks for any advice.

07-30-2008, 06:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
LundLover LundLover is wishin' he was fishin' Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 4,171 Thanks: 118 Thanked 96 Times in 74 Posts	An invite to many of the forum bow-fishermen would do wonders.... __________________ There is no pleasure in having nothing to do; the fun is in having lots to do and not doing it!

07-30-2008, 08:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
Kayaker Kayaker has no status. Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Posts: 29 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	That's a great idea, but... I forgot to mention by brother's pond is in Northern Iowa - 200 miles from here.

07-31-2008, 08:43 AM	#5 (permalink)
Fish Recycler Fish Recycler is spending 20x more time talking about fishing than fishing Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Council Bluffs, IA Posts: 2,099 Thanks: 448 Thanked 700 Times in 267 Posts	Yep, once they're there, they're there to stay unless you start over from scratch. He can probably "manage" them though, and predators are an important part of that. A few other ideas: Trap them (build and submerge a fish trap, and return desirable fish to the water, removing the undesirable fish) Seine them (a large seine may help remove many fish) Catch them with setlines or trotlines baited with corn (may also catch some desirable species, which can be released) Invite some bowfishers to help thin the population Cast net them (may have limited success, but will get some yoty fish Spear them through the ice, over a chum pile (corn) It's all just "maintenance" unless he wants to do a drain and restart or rotenone. __________________ You can be a Fish Recycler too...let 'em swim. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

07-31-2008, 05:13 PM	#6 (permalink)
jimbosan jimbosan has no status. Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Blair, Nebraska Posts: 2,364 Thanks: 292 Thanked 255 Times in 181 Posts	Dynamite! __________________ GET EM CLOSE/happiness is a bloody arrow!

08-04-2008, 01:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
Sticksnskullsia Sticksnskullsia has no status. Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Middle, Central, Midwestern Region Posts: 56 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	I worked for as a fisheries tech for 3 years, the only way to rid a pond of the trash fish is rotenone. Electro-fishing it is just a feel good action and seining or trapping isn't going to get all of the trash fish either. I would rotenone and start over.

08-04-2008, 01:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
huskerfan46 huskerfan46 has no status. Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Lincoln Posts: 96 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Call me when they are in spawn and I will bring my bow!

08-04-2008, 03:24 PM	#11 (permalink)
Sorny Sorny is READY FOR SPRING!!! Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: York Co. Posts: 525 Thanks: 29 Thanked 87 Times in 60 Posts	there is a bowfishing association of Iowa. I would get a hold of them and get them out there to do a shoot and kill the sobs. Sorny

08-05-2008, 07:08 PM	#12 (permalink)
Kayaker Kayaker has no status. Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Posts: 29 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for all the advice / input, guys. Appreciate it! I will forward this to my brother. Thanks, again!

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