Shotgun Only Deer Season

TA2D · 08-17-2007, 10:20 PM

What are the views of those here on having a shotgun only deer season? I think this could curtail alot of the road-hunting maniacs down here in Nemaha county, last season I was in a deer stand about 300yds away from the road, wearing my hunter orange, and low and behold, some idiot from Omaha or Lincoln comes charging through the bean field and spooks up the buck that I had bedded the night before. I was ready to take the slugs out and put in some 4's and pepper his damn tailgate. Back on topic, do you think that shotgun only would deter some of these instances?

Aaron

TA2D

nehunter88 · 08-17-2007, 10:45 PM

Shotgun or rifle, an idiot is still an idiot.

TA2D · 08-17-2007, 10:47 PM

this is true, I know that in some states thats all you can hunt with in firearms season is shotgun, it would make it more challenging, since you cant make one of those shots halfway across the section.

Aaron

TA2D

vonny571 · 08-17-2007, 11:12 PM

I've only ever hunted deer with a rifle, so it's difficult for me to imagine hunting them without. As far as road hunters go, some of those guys might try to drive right up on the deer with a shotgun. Shotgun only might make certain violations less prevalent due to the limitations of the firearm, but someone who disregards the laws and regulations will do so regardless of what those regulations are.

Vonny

TA2D · 08-17-2007, 11:22 PM

I see your point, but how hard is it to shoot a deer from the road, go knock on a door fabricating some lie that you shot your deer and it ran into their timber and would like to get it. Or, how many people take the 300+yd shot, and wound a deer, look for a bit cant find it and give up and let the animal suffer as a cripple till it dies. I know that a 12 or 20 gauge slug is going to destroy anything that it comes in contact with, both deer that I have shot, one with a 12 and another with a 20, were less than 10 yards away broadside and I did not have a pass through with the slug. It is a quick kill, less suffering for the animal, and no question if I wounded it or not.

Aaron

TA2D

vonny571 · 08-17-2007, 11:28 PM

I see what your saying, but I'm usually not a fan of regulating those who are responsible (i will never take a 300yd. shot regardless of firearm unless I spent WAY more time practice shooting that I currently do) as a result of those who are irresponsible. I think the answer is in stiffer penalties for those who are caught breaking the laws and regulations already in place.

Vonny

Lenny · 08-18-2007, 01:43 AM

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some idiot from Omaha or Lincoln

I have found in the past from reading the newspapers and other sources the most of your game violators are from the local township. Most of the time they seem to think that living in the area or knowing someone gives them the right to break the law and then the people who come in from out of town to hunt, spend some money in local shop get the blame. Dont be so quick to piont the finger at the big cities when it was probably someone from your town.

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do you think that shotgun only would deter some of these instances

How 'bout you tell us how it would stop people from poaching. Its like any other type of gun restrictions, you take away or further restict the privlages of the law abidding people and the law breakers still break the law while the honest Joe suffers for it. More enforcment of the laws is the answer not more restictions end of story.

buck2die · 08-18-2007, 04:19 AM

I fully agree with Lenny. If a guy is willing to break the law and shoot a deer from his truck while road hunting, he sure in the heck won't care if it is during a rifle season or shotgun season, or muzzleloader season. If we had a shotgun season, Billy Bob Poacher would love it. Law abiding hunters would be limited with thier shotguns while all the Poachers would be using thier rifles out the window. Breaking the law is exactly that! Making new laws won't stop people that don't abide by them in the first place. Please tell me that you understand this.

buck2die · 08-18-2007, 07:23 AM

I say we need to go to a spear only season. This should eliminate all road hunting. If you want to make deer hunting more challenging all you need to do is hunt using a traditional bow.

**Ty Stromquist** · 08-18-2007, 09:40 AM

Yea I believe that rifle season in Nebraska brings in more money to our G&P than probably any other thing. Imagine the people that wouldnt hunt anymore if they got rid of rifle season.

I personally like the "ease" of rifle hunting. I can go out and blast some does very quickly and get back to real hunting............ waterfowl. hehe

nehunter88 · 08-18-2007, 10:41 AM

As said earlier, new laws shouldn't be passed that hinder honest hunters, just to try to get to dishonest hunters. In the initial post it sounds as if the hunters were trespassing. Well we already have a law on the books for that one.

As far as 300 yard shots with a rifle by a hunter that shouldn't be taking those shots. This same person would take a shot with a shotgun that would be questionable too. Just as he probably already does with his blackpowder gun, or his bow.

This entire matter is just morals and ethics. They hunt where they trespass, they road hunt, and take shots that are questionable. New laws won't stop any of that.

That being said. I wonder how long it will be before someone has the idea to change higher populated counties, like Douglas or Sarpy, over to shotgun only.

Alex T. · 08-18-2007, 11:28 AM

Since you could read the license plate to know it was from Omaha/Lincoln, what did the authorities say/do when you contacted them?

Alex

fowlfoolr1979 · 08-18-2007, 12:16 PM

Just a thought but most of the license plates issued in Lancaster or Douglas county do not have the number of the county in the plate number. So I am guessing he probably saw the plate started with 3 letters and figured it must of been from Omaha or Lincoln. They probably drove away too quickly to get the whole plate number.....

Layne

goose abuser · 08-18-2007, 12:38 PM

I think the rifle season is more because of the hatred of deer, rather than the sport of hunting.

Some farmers dont want you to hunt deer, they want you to KILL deer. The farmers families and friends normally kill as many as legally possible and look how many deer we have around here. In some cases, deer are so thick, they issue DP tags and kill hundreds at a time. Its not a numbers game with the shottie.

Another thing...Alot of guys in open country, dont want to spend all day waiting for a 50yrd shot. They want to drive until they see a deer and shoot it from 400 yrds away. More power to them, they dont wish to waste their time "hunting" deer.

Let it be known now that my vote doesnt count. I love to shoot a deer or two, but I HATE deer and deer hunting with a passion. With the idiots around here now, the shotgun season would just mean more deer standing in the middle of the highways.

buckkiller · 08-18-2007, 04:49 PM

hunting the western half of the state would be a challange with a shotgun.

tjm · 08-18-2007, 04:50 PM

In the words of Ron White, "You can't fix stupid".

**Ty Stromquist** · 08-18-2007, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by goose abuser

I think the rifle season is more because of the hatred of deer, rather than the sport of hunting.

Some farmers dont want you to hunt deer, they want you to KILL deer. The farmers families and friends normally kill as many as legally possible and look how many deer we have around here. In some cases, deer are so thick, they issue DP tags and kill hundreds at a time. Its not a numbers game with the shottie.

Another thing...Alot of guys in open country, dont want to spend all day waiting for a 50yrd shot. They want to drive until they see a deer and shoot it from 400 yrds away. More power to them, they dont wish to waste their time "hunting" deer.

Let it be known now that my vote doesnt count. I love to shoot a deer or two, but I HATE deer and deer hunting with a passion. With the idiots around here now, the shotgun season would just mean more deer standing in the middle of the highways.

I think Scott hit that nail on the head.

Im with him. When it comes to deer hunting anymore I am one of those guys. I just want to "kill" my 3 does real fast so I can get back out to waterfowling. If I had to screw around with my shotgun to get them I wouldnt bother. I just like to eat them.

I used to like to trophy hunt but man that rut is right in the peak of the waterfowl migration.

Slack Jaw · 08-18-2007, 06:27 PM

I don't think a shotgun only season will do a damn thing to deter poaching and trespassing.Poachers have a complete disrespect for the law or property owner rights.Adding more restrictions punishes the true hunters while giving the poachers just another law to break.

Musky Dreamin · 08-18-2007, 07:35 PM

I believe that although shotgun only would lower the total number of idiots you would still see the same %. Its not even hunting for those guys. I rifle hunted one season and one season is all I will ever hunt. I'll stick with my bow and black powder, even if I do end up as kitty poo!

Still, I wish they would move rifle season so bow is open during prime rut.

tjm · 08-18-2007, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Musky Dreamin

Still, I wish they would move rifle season so bow is open during prime rut.

If you believe the lastest issue of Deer & Deer Hunting magazine, prime time will be before rifle season (at least this year).

08-17-2007, 10:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
TA2D Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Auburn Nebraska Posts: 218 Thanks: 21 Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts	Shotgun Only Deer Season What are the views of those here on having a shotgun only deer season? I think this could curtail alot of the road-hunting maniacs down here in Nemaha county, last season I was in a deer stand about 300yds away from the road, wearing my hunter orange, and low and behold, some idiot from Omaha or Lincoln comes charging through the bean field and spooks up the buck that I had bedded the night before. I was ready to take the slugs out and put in some 4's and pepper his damn tailgate. Back on topic, do you think that shotgun only would deter some of these instances? Aaron TA2D

08-17-2007, 10:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
nehunter88 Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 141 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Shotgun or rifle, an idiot is still an idiot. __________________ Whoever said cats always land on their feet wasn't throwing them right.-Anonymous

08-18-2007, 07:23 AM	#9 (permalink)
buck2die Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Millard Posts: 148 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I say we need to go to a spear only season. This should eliminate all road hunting. If you want to make deer hunting more challenging all you need to do is hunt using a traditional bow. Last edited by buck2die; 08-18-2007 at 07:27 AM.

08-18-2007, 09:40 AM	#10 (permalink)
Ty Stromquist Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: in a treestand Posts: 4,020 Thanks: 52 Thanked 25 Times in 20 Posts	Yea I believe that rifle season in Nebraska brings in more money to our G&P than probably any other thing. Imagine the people that wouldnt hunt anymore if they got rid of rifle season. I personally like the "ease" of rifle hunting. I can go out and blast some does very quickly and get back to real hunting............ waterfowl. hehe __________________ "Go afield with a good attitude, with respect for the wildlife you hunt and for the forest and fields you walk. Immerse yourself in the outdoor experience. It will cleanse your soul and make you a better person." - Fred Bear

08-18-2007, 10:41 AM	#11 (permalink)
nehunter88 Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 141 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	As said earlier, new laws shouldn't be passed that hinder honest hunters, just to try to get to dishonest hunters. In the initial post it sounds as if the hunters were trespassing. Well we already have a law on the books for that one. As far as 300 yard shots with a rifle by a hunter that shouldn't be taking those shots. This same person would take a shot with a shotgun that would be questionable too. Just as he probably already does with his blackpowder gun, or his bow. This entire matter is just morals and ethics. They hunt where they trespass, they road hunt, and take shots that are questionable. New laws won't stop any of that. That being said. I wonder how long it will be before someone has the idea to change higher populated counties, like Douglas or Sarpy, over to shotgun only. __________________ Whoever said cats always land on their feet wasn't throwing them right.-Anonymous

08-17-2007, 10:47 PM	#3 (permalink)
TA2D Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Auburn Nebraska Posts: 218 Thanks: 21 Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts	this is true, I know that in some states thats all you can hunt with in firearms season is shotgun, it would make it more challenging, since you cant make one of those shots halfway across the section. Aaron TA2D

08-17-2007, 11:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
vonny571 Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Junction City, KS Posts: 701 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I've only ever hunted deer with a rifle, so it's difficult for me to imagine hunting them without. As far as road hunters go, some of those guys might try to drive right up on the deer with a shotgun. Shotgun only might make certain violations less prevalent due to the limitations of the firearm, but someone who disregards the laws and regulations will do so regardless of what those regulations are. Vonny

08-17-2007, 11:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
TA2D Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Auburn Nebraska Posts: 218 Thanks: 21 Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts	I see your point, but how hard is it to shoot a deer from the road, go knock on a door fabricating some lie that you shot your deer and it ran into their timber and would like to get it. Or, how many people take the 300+yd shot, and wound a deer, look for a bit cant find it and give up and let the animal suffer as a cripple till it dies. I know that a 12 or 20 gauge slug is going to destroy anything that it comes in contact with, both deer that I have shot, one with a 12 and another with a 20, were less than 10 yards away broadside and I did not have a pass through with the slug. It is a quick kill, less suffering for the animal, and no question if I wounded it or not. Aaron TA2D

08-17-2007, 11:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
vonny571 Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Junction City, KS Posts: 701 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I see what your saying, but I'm usually not a fan of regulating those who are responsible (i will never take a 300yd. shot regardless of firearm unless I spent WAY more time practice shooting that I currently do) as a result of those who are irresponsible. I think the answer is in stiffer penalties for those who are caught breaking the laws and regulations already in place. Vonny

08-18-2007, 04:19 AM	#8 (permalink)
buck2die Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Millard Posts: 148 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I fully agree with Lenny. If a guy is willing to break the law and shoot a deer from his truck while road hunting, he sure in the heck won't care if it is during a rifle season or shotgun season, or muzzleloader season. If we had a shotgun season, Billy Bob Poacher would love it. Law abiding hunters would be limited with thier shotguns while all the Poachers would be using thier rifles out the window. Breaking the law is exactly that! Making new laws won't stop people that don't abide by them in the first place. Please tell me that you understand this.

08-18-2007, 11:28 AM	#12 (permalink)
Alex T. Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: under the lids of a laydown blind Certified Youth Fishing Instructor Posts: 3,419 Thanks: 0 Thanked 62 Times in 35 Posts	Since you could read the license plate to know it was from Omaha/Lincoln, what did the authorities say/do when you contacted them? Alex __________________ Listening to an e-caller daily to help pass the time until they come back

08-18-2007, 12:16 PM	#13 (permalink)
fowlfoolr1979 Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 608 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Just a thought but most of the license plates issued in Lancaster or Douglas county do not have the number of the county in the plate number. So I am guessing he probably saw the plate started with 3 letters and figured it must of been from Omaha or Lincoln. They probably drove away too quickly to get the whole plate number..... Layne

08-18-2007, 12:38 PM	#14 (permalink)
goose abuser Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 511 Thanks: 7 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	I think the rifle season is more because of the hatred of deer, rather than the sport of hunting. Some farmers dont want you to hunt deer, they want you to KILL deer. The farmers families and friends normally kill as many as legally possible and look how many deer we have around here. In some cases, deer are so thick, they issue DP tags and kill hundreds at a time. Its not a numbers game with the shottie. Another thing...Alot of guys in open country, dont want to spend all day waiting for a 50yrd shot. They want to drive until they see a deer and shoot it from 400 yrds away. More power to them, they dont wish to waste their time "hunting" deer. Let it be known now that my vote doesnt count. I love to shoot a deer or two, but I HATE deer and deer hunting with a passion. With the idiots around here now, the shotgun season would just mean more deer standing in the middle of the highways. __________________ My frilled dragon eats more than your frilled dragon...

08-18-2007, 04:49 PM	#15 (permalink)
buckkiller Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	hunting the western half of the state would be a challange with a shotgun.

08-18-2007, 04:50 PM	#16 (permalink)
tjm Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Norfolk, NE Posts: 138 Thanks: 2 Thanked 8 Times in 4 Posts	In the words of Ron White, "You can't fix stupid".

08-18-2007, 06:27 PM	#18 (permalink)
Slack Jaw Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Nebraska:Where men are men and sheep are afraid. Posts: 308 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	I don't think a shotgun only season will do a damn thing to deter poaching and trespassing.Poachers have a complete disrespect for the law or property owner rights.Adding more restrictions punishes the true hunters while giving the poachers just another law to break. __________________ Tell me is something eluding you sunshine?Is this not what you expected to see?If you wanna' find out what's behind these cold eyes,you'll just have to claw your way through this disguise!

08-18-2007, 07:35 PM	#19 (permalink)
Musky Dreamin Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Auburn NE Posts: 269 Thanks: 4 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	I believe that although shotgun only would lower the total number of idiots you would still see the same %. Its not even hunting for those guys. I rifle hunted one season and one season is all I will ever hunt. I'll stick with my bow and black powder, even if I do end up as kitty poo! Still, I wish they would move rifle season so bow is open during prime rut. __________________ Yesterdays tomorrow is today!

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