StateWide Buck Permit Question

[thumpper]

I was reading on another thread (hrln buck thread) where someone purchased a statewide buck tag and hadn't seen anything decent to shoot.

I gotta commend them for holding out for something decent to shoot but yet it brought up another question I had.

If you shoot a spike that has spikes less then 6 inches can that be classified as a Buck or a Doe?

(Most people know but just incase: anything less then 6'' is considered an AO deer in regards to permits)

I am not familiar with this permit but I wish they would change the permit to a Buck/Doe permit so people on the last weekend/day of hunting can choose to take a doe just to fill the tag and get the meat.

[40YardKev]

I think that is a good idea. They could add a "bonus Anterless tag" on the bottom, the same way they do for an archery permit. I think this would stop someone with a statewide buck only permit from shooting a "dink" on the last day just to put meat in the freezer.

[Willhuntforfood]

Yea that would be nice. Last year I got to eat some delicious paper.

[Cat Whacker]

Originally Posted by thumpper

I was reading on another thread (hrln buck thread) where someone purchased a statewide buck tag and hadn't seen anything decent to shoot.

I gotta commend them for holding out for something decent to shoot but yet it brought up another question I had.

If you shoot a spike that has spikes less then 6 inches can that be classified as a Buck or a Doe?

(Most people know but just incase: anything less then 6'' is considered an AO deer in regards to permits)

I am not familiar with this permit but I wish they would change the permit to a Buck/Doe permit so people on the last weekend/day of hunting can choose to take a doe just to fill the tag and get the meat.

Amen! I was going to post this up earlier. In my situation my father farms ground in two different areas, my sister lives out in western Nebraska, and I have a friend with land in the southeast. I have to get a statewide buck permit if I want to hunt in all these areas and not buy different permits for each area. I have passed up 10 different bucks so far this year and don't intend on taking a buck unless he is pretty decent size. The problem is that if I don't see any good shooter buck by Sunday I really would hate to shoot just any little buck just for meat. I really can't understand why the statewide permits couldn't be either sex.

[thumpper]

Originally Posted by 40YardKev

I think that is a good idea. They could add a "bonus Anterless tag" on the bottom, the same way they do for an archery permit. I think this would stop someone with a statewide buck only permit from shooting a "dink" on the last day just to put meat in the freezer.

My vote would NOT be for the bonus tag for someone would still feel obligated to shoot a doe and a dink. Make it ONE Deer, Buck or Doe.

[Evenflow]

I don't think they have a bonus tag on the permit because some areas of the state do not have the high numbers as deer as others...i.e. mule deer does. Also, the state wide buck permit is higher priced and most who buy it are not necessarily after meat, rather antlers. One thing I would like to see is being able to use the statewide buck permit across multiple weapons seasons. I really only have a desire to shoot one good buck a year (well two if they are both bruisers) I wish I could use that tag for archery season, rifle season and then muzzleloader season if I wanted, still only harvesting one buck w/ the permit. As it now stands w/ only being able to obtain two permits that allow the taking of a buck per year I buy an archery tag and a muzzleloader tag sitting out the rifle season.

[obert]

Rather see the statewide buck done away with. Replace with season choice either sex tag for 3 seasons like e/f mentioned.

[BPbowhunter]

Originally Posted by Evenflow

I don't think they have a bonus tag on the permit because some areas of the state do not have the high numbers as deer as others...i.e. mule deer does. Also, the state wide buck permit is higher priced and most who buy it are not necessarily after meat, rather antlers. One thing I would like to see is being able to use the statewide buck permit across multiple weapons seasons. I really only have a desire to shoot one good buck a year (well two if they are both bruisers) I wish I could use that tag for archery season, rifle season and then muzzleloader season if I wanted, still only harvesting one buck w/ the permit. As it now stands w/ only being able to obtain two permits that allow the taking of a buck per year I buy an archery tag and a muzzleloader tag sitting out the rifle season.

I'm all for something like that. Especially in my situation where alot of the land I hunt is better situated for rifle hunting than bow hunting. This way I could bow hunt for a big buck and if I don't find him then I could rifle hunt on the same tag.

[BigBo]

Originally Posted by Cat Whacker

Amen! I was going to post this up earlier. In my situation my father farms ground in two different areas, my sister lives out in western Nebraska, and I have a friend with land in the southeast. I have to get a statewide buck permit if I want to hunt in all these areas and not buy different permits for each area. I have passed up 10 different bucks so far this year and don't intend on taking a buck unless he is pretty decent size. The problem is that if I don't see any good shooter buck by Sunday I really would hate to shoot just any little buck just for meat. I really can't understand why the statewide permits couldn't be either sex.

I'm w/Cat Whacker on this one. I think a statewide either sex would be a much better option. It would eliminate the temptation for some hunters to take an immature buck vs. eating the permit. This is the first year that I've done a statewide buck permit, and it was to have the ability to hunt anywhere. I didn't pick it up just to be able to get some antlers. Maybe I'm in the minority, but geography was the deciding factor for me not sex of the deer. I planned my hunt too late to get in on the buy permits, so I really didn't have any other choice. I like Evenflow's suggestion of statewide over all three seasons, but make it either sex. In my mind you're paying the extra to be able to have the option to hunt anywhere in the state.

[elkstalkr]

I personally don't see the problem with making some form of season choice buck tag. It might actually benefit the NGPC.

1.) They could charge the same price for a SC as they do the statewide tag. $73.

2.) If someone only bought one SC buck tag to hunt all seasons, the NGPC would still get more money than if someone bought 2 of the "cheap" individual season tags.

3.) With this option many people would by an expensive SC buck tag AND a individual season buck tag. The NGPC would make MORE money.

2.) They could still limit hunters to 2 buck tags a year

3.) Hunters who archery, rifle, and muzzleload hunt could now enjoy all 3 seasons with a buck tag, in case Mr. Big walked by.

Its a WIN-WIN. I just can't see any negatives here that aren't already a "problem" with our current tags and regulations. Why does the NGPC force hunters to choose what 2 methods they want to take thier bucks with?

[BPbowhunter]

Maybe someone will bring this up at the meetings that are coming up.

[thumpper]

I like the idea of a season choice statewide buck or doe tag. (1 deer)


Does anyone know if NGPC would have a problem if you did check in a 'spike' (less then 6") with the buck tag??

[Matt Watson]

I too would like to see an either sex tag that can be used during any season which is why i started the poll on it. It seems though that more than a couple of people are against it and im not really sure why as i don't see any negatives. Maybe that way i worded it made a few people misinterpret what i was talking about.

Season Choice Either Sex Tag

[ssmith]

Originally Posted by elkstalkr

I personally don't see the problem with making some form of season choice buck tag. It might actually benefit the NGPC.

1.) They could charge the same price for a SC as they do the statewide tag. $73.

2.) If someone only bought one SC buck tag to hunt all seasons, the NGPC would still get more money than if someone bought 2 of the "cheap" individual season tags.

3.) With this option many people would by an expensive SC buck tag AND a individual season buck tag. The NGPC would make MORE money.

2.) They could still limit hunters to 2 buck tags a year

3.) Hunters who archery, rifle, and muzzleload hunt could now enjoy all 3 seasons with a buck tag, in case Mr. Big walked by.

Its a WIN-WIN. I just can't see any negatives here that aren't already a "problem" with our current tags and regulations. Why does the NGPC force hunters to choose what 2 methods they want to take thier bucks with?

I'm all for this one!

[outdoorplayer]

would you make it a buck or whitetail doe tag or just either sex. it seems to me game and parks would like to keep mulie does alive

[elkstalkr]

Originally Posted by outdoorplayer

would you make it a buck or whitetail doe tag or just either sex. it seems to me game and parks would like to keep mulie does alive

Variations could be worked out.

Example: They could even restrict it like the statewide tag and state no mulie bucks could be taken with the tag during regular rifle south of I-80, as apparently that is an issue they have addressed with the statewide tag.