Embarking on a new adventure

ADV1 · 11-11-2009, 09:15 AM

Hey guys, I talked about this in another thread and I need to be carefull what I say as I cant say much but I wanted to let you all know that I'm embarking on a new chapter in my life.

As some of you may know, I sell High End CNC manufacturing equipment in Iowa & Nebraska. Part of my job is comming up with new ways to make an existing product, more effiecient, higher profitability etc... As a result I'm always looking at things and thinking of ways to make the product itself better. I've come up with all kinds of ideas that help my customers but have never went the extra step to help myself, until now.

I've been putting in some quality time in my tree stand bow hunting and the other day I was sitting there anylizing my G5 Montec broadhead and it hit me. A way to make this better! a completely new design!

I cannot divulge how I'm going to do this or what it's going to look like but rest assured it'll be completely different from anything you've ever seen. I can say this with honesty as I even went and searched the US patent office for this and NOTHING has come close!

I have access to various CNC equipement along with my own non-CNC tools in my shop and have begun prototyping. I even went to Cabelas and bought a bunch of existing broadheads to modify and play with. I'm busy with work and hunting but I'm hoping that I'll have a shooter or two ready here in a week or two. Most likely after deer season I'll begin trials.

My issue is how to test this. I'd really like to test it on a side of beef but I really hate the thought of wasting good meat like that but it may be what it comes down too. I don't want to test it on any deer until I know it's a good solid unit that is lethal. I don't want to wound a poor deer and have it suffer.

So, that's it... Once I get far enough and can prove enough to get a patent then I'll start sharing what it looks like and data on my progress!

Wish me luck guys!

Aric

**Ty S** · 11-11-2009, 09:28 AM

Test it on a side of hog. They are cheap and you could shoot it a thousand times.

If you need any help testing let me know.

Im a fan of that type of broadhead.

**Slimdog** · 11-11-2009, 09:28 AM

Good luck, ADV! Even though I am not an archery hunter, I will definately keep my eyes open for updates.

As far as testing goes, have you thought about using ballistics gelatin? I would think it would work great for what you would need to test. I would think you could melt it down after a round of testing and use it again for the next round of testing so it may be cost effective as well. Heck, you go even go all Mythbusters and make a mold of the "vitals".

Slim

ADV1 · 11-11-2009, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Slimdog

Good luck, ADV! Even though I am not an archery hunter, I will definately keep my eyes open for updates.

As far as testing goes, have you thought about using ballistics gelatin? I would think it would work great for what you would need to test. I would think you could melt it down after a round of testing and use it again for the next round of testing so it may be cost effective as well. Heck, you go even go all Mythbusters and make a mold of the "vitals".

Slim

YES!!! Why didn't I think of that! Thanks!!! That should really help to get me started!

ADV1 · 11-11-2009, 10:36 AM

I did some quick research on Ballistic gel and while I found a bunch of ways to make it from off the shelf stuff I did also find out where Mythbusters gets their Gelitan and it's in Sioux City IA! [ www.gelita.com ]

Pretty cool! I cover that territory and get up there quite a bit so next time through I'm going to drop in and pick some ingredients up!

cougarw · 11-11-2009, 11:01 AM

How about a goat? You can buy live one's for about $15..

ADV1 · 11-11-2009, 11:22 AM

That's actually not a bad idea when the time comes... I want to anylize organ damage and get some cutting data for how it fares with bones.

Anyone want to sell me a cheap goat here in a couple of months?

tjm · 11-11-2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ty Stromquist

Test it on a side of hog.

Thats what I was going to say. Mythbusters and other shows on Discovery use hogs all the time to replicate a human body.

Evenflow · 11-11-2009, 11:43 AM

Get some hippies and tell them your testing a new type of narcotic...

Fishingnerd33 · 11-11-2009, 12:00 PM

I can't wait to see what you come up with!! Good luck with your project!!

cougarw · 11-11-2009, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADV1

That's actually not a bad idea when the time comes... I want to anylize organ damage and get some cutting data for how it fares with bones.

Anyone want to sell me a cheap goat here in a couple of months?

I know where you can get lots of them.

**Ty S** · 11-11-2009, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cougarw

How about a goat? You can buy live one's for about $15..

Hey coug I got $15 and some beers. Sounds like a fun afternoon right there. HA I know someone with a .50 cal.

icenut · 11-12-2009, 07:58 AM

Hey now, knock off the hippie comments! hehehe

CDILL · 11-12-2009, 07:58 AM

Maybe you could get some volunteers from PETA since they are against testing on animals. I am sure you could get a few to trade places with the goat. Lol. Good luck with your idea.

Luv2Decoy · 11-12-2009, 05:10 PM

Another source is what you see laying every few miles. Road killed deer. They seem to be everywhere.

BPbowhunter · 11-12-2009, 05:18 PM

Good luck! If you need anyone to test some out later down road, drop me a line.

ADV1 · 11-13-2009, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luv2Decoy

Another source is what you see laying every few miles. Road killed deer. They seem to be everywhere.

I wonder what the legality of that is? I'd hate to collect a few, take em down to my place for experimentation and then get nailed by the G&PC because they think I'm an A-hole poacher or something!

brian40 · 11-13-2009, 04:39 PM

Please sign me up to be a field tester

smokeybear z · 11-16-2009, 08:08 PM

I was going to say road kill deer also. To avoid the poaching appearance, when you find one on the side of the road, call the sherrif's office and they can give you a "road kill permit" (I think is what it is called).

Then you just keep that in your possession as proof.

Good luck though.

ADV1 · 01-11-2010, 02:36 PM

OK, so in case any of you have been wondering about how this project is comming I thought I'd fill you in.

I have not yet started any prototypes yet. With the Holidays, work and snow I have not gotten much shop time.

I have spent some quality time doing research on certain aspects of the design that I want to incorporate and how I might be able to do it. I've also drawn up the skeleton of this in a simple CAD program I have. I've also spoken with a couple of customers that might be able to help me get things rolling once I settle on a design.

I'll be Goose hunting in Valentine this weekend and after that the plan is to get the shop cleaned up and prepare to start some prototypes with what limited tools for mfg I have in my shop. I'm pretty lucky as well as we're getting a new CNC Mill into our showroom in the next month which will really help out. I'll toss on my indexer and be able to really play with things!

My hope is that by March I'll have a few different prototypes ready to go! I'd like to start testing then!

That's it for now... I'll update this thread as I do more.

Aric

11-11-2009, 09:15 AM	#1 (permalink)
ADV1 ADV1 is thinking about a large rack! :) Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Gretna, NE Posts: 203 Thanks: 13 Thanked 50 Times in 38 Posts	Embarking on a new adventure Hey guys, I talked about this in another thread and I need to be carefull what I say as I cant say much but I wanted to let you all know that I'm embarking on a new chapter in my life. As some of you may know, I sell High End CNC manufacturing equipment in Iowa & Nebraska. Part of my job is comming up with new ways to make an existing product, more effiecient, higher profitability etc... As a result I'm always looking at things and thinking of ways to make the product itself better. I've come up with all kinds of ideas that help my customers but have never went the extra step to help myself, until now. I've been putting in some quality time in my tree stand bow hunting and the other day I was sitting there anylizing my G5 Montec broadhead and it hit me. A way to make this better! a completely new design! I cannot divulge how I'm going to do this or what it's going to look like but rest assured it'll be completely different from anything you've ever seen. I can say this with honesty as I even went and searched the US patent office for this and NOTHING has come close! I have access to various CNC equipement along with my own non-CNC tools in my shop and have begun prototyping. I even went to Cabelas and bought a bunch of existing broadheads to modify and play with. I'm busy with work and hunting but I'm hoping that I'll have a shooter or two ready here in a week or two. Most likely after deer season I'll begin trials. My issue is how to test this. I'd really like to test it on a side of beef but I really hate the thought of wasting good meat like that but it may be what it comes down too. I don't want to test it on any deer until I know it's a good solid unit that is lethal. I don't want to wound a poor deer and have it suffer. So, that's it... Once I get far enough and can prove enough to get a patent then I'll start sharing what it looks like and data on my progress! Wish me luck guys! Aric __________________ "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over!

11-11-2009, 09:28 AM	#2 (permalink)
Ty S Ty S is sunburnt, bloody, and beat! Moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nebraska Posts: 6,114 Thanks: 508 Thanked 399 Times in 266 Posts	Test it on a side of hog. They are cheap and you could shoot it a thousand times. If you need any help testing let me know. Im a fan of that type of broadhead. __________________ Ducks Unlimited Waterfowlers Party , Norfolk, NE April 24 100s of decoys, 11 guns, beer, food, and good times included in the $25 ticket price. Contact me for details! Not just for duck hunters. Lots of different prizes.

11-11-2009, 10:36 AM	#5 (permalink)
ADV1 ADV1 is thinking about a large rack! :) Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Gretna, NE Posts: 203 Thanks: 13 Thanked 50 Times in 38 Posts	I did some quick research on Ballistic gel and while I found a bunch of ways to make it from off the shelf stuff I did also find out where Mythbusters gets their Gelitan and it's in Sioux City IA! [ www.gelita.com ] Pretty cool! I cover that territory and get up there quite a bit so next time through I'm going to drop in and pick some ingredients up! __________________ "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over!

11-11-2009, 11:22 AM	#7 (permalink)
ADV1 ADV1 is thinking about a large rack! :) Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Gretna, NE Posts: 203 Thanks: 13 Thanked 50 Times in 38 Posts	That's actually not a bad idea when the time comes... I want to anylize organ damage and get some cutting data for how it fares with bones. Anyone want to sell me a cheap goat here in a couple of months? __________________ "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over!

11-11-2009, 12:00 PM	#10 (permalink)
Fishingnerd33 Fishingnerd33 is waiting...ice rod in hand. Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chadron, NE Posts: 1,578 Thanks: 1,089 Thanked 281 Times in 157 Posts	I can't wait to see what you come up with!! Good luck with your project!! __________________ 'The core of a man’s heart is undomesticated and that is good. "I am not alive in an office," as one Northface ad has it. "I am not alive in a taxi cab. I am not alive on a sidewalk." Amen to that. Their conclusion? "Never stop exploring." ' 'Wild at Heart'by John Eldredge Rest In Peace, OBG.

11-11-2009, 09:28 AM	#3 (permalink)
Slimdog Slimdog is already suffering from withdrawls... 2008 Catch and Continue Finalist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kearney Certified Youth Fishing Instructor NEFGA Line Recycling Volunteer Posts: 715 Thanks: 412 Thanked 310 Times in 172 Posts	Good luck, ADV! Even though I am not an archery hunter, I will definately keep my eyes open for updates. As far as testing goes, have you thought about using ballistics gelatin? I would think it would work great for what you would need to test. I would think you could melt it down after a round of testing and use it again for the next round of testing so it may be cost effective as well. Heck, you go even go all Mythbusters and make a mold of the "vitals". Slim

11-11-2009, 11:01 AM	#6 (permalink)
cougarw cougarw is wondering what to do next. Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In the wild Posts: 2,206 Thanks: 161 Thanked 204 Times in 133 Posts	How about a goat? You can buy live one's for about $15..

11-11-2009, 11:43 AM	#9 (permalink)
Evenflow Evenflow is Wishing I was not at work Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Omaha Posts: 596 Thanks: 86 Thanked 171 Times in 85 Posts	Get some hippies and tell them your testing a new type of narcotic...

11-12-2009, 07:58 AM	#13 (permalink)
icenut icenut has no status. Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: omaha Posts: 77 Thanks: 0 Thanked 22 Times in 5 Posts	Hey now, knock off the hippie comments! hehehe

11-12-2009, 07:58 AM	#14 (permalink)
CDILL CDILL has no status. Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Lincoln Posts: 29 Thanks: 6 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Maybe you could get some volunteers from PETA since they are against testing on animals. I am sure you could get a few to trade places with the goat. Lol. Good luck with your idea.

11-12-2009, 05:10 PM	#15 (permalink)
Luv2Decoy Luv2Decoy has no status. Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in the blind Posts: 142 Thanks: 12 Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts	Another source is what you see laying every few miles. Road killed deer. They seem to be everywhere.

11-12-2009, 05:18 PM	#16 (permalink)
BPbowhunter BPbowhunter is at full draw 2007 NEFGA Outdoorsman Of The Year Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Broken Bow Posts: 3,464 Thanks: 40 Thanked 324 Times in 226 Posts	Good luck! If you need anyone to test some out later down road, drop me a line. __________________ Is it duck season yet? Whackin' Woodies Waterfowl Crew "Look, a pair of singles!"

11-13-2009, 04:39 PM	#18 (permalink)
brian40 brian40 is a paranoid cracked pot Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Kearney Posts: 774 Thanks: 334 Thanked 127 Times in 77 Posts	Please sign me up to be a field tester __________________ Did I say that outloud?? Kill'em & Grill'em!!!!!!!

11-16-2009, 08:08 PM	#19 (permalink)
smokeybear z smokeybear z is protecting the cat's tail from my 2 year old son's teeth. Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Norfolk Posts: 302 Thanks: 68 Thanked 39 Times in 23 Posts	I was going to say road kill deer also. To avoid the poaching appearance, when you find one on the side of the road, call the sherrif's office and they can give you a "road kill permit" (I think is what it is called). Then you just keep that in your possession as proof. Good luck though. __________________ "Lord, suffer me a buck so large that even I, in talking of it afterward, have no need to lie."

01-11-2010, 02:36 PM	#20 (permalink)
ADV1 ADV1 is thinking about a large rack! :) Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Gretna, NE Posts: 203 Thanks: 13 Thanked 50 Times in 38 Posts	OK, so in case any of you have been wondering about how this project is comming I thought I'd fill you in. I have not yet started any prototypes yet. With the Holidays, work and snow I have not gotten much shop time. I have spent some quality time doing research on certain aspects of the design that I want to incorporate and how I might be able to do it. I've also drawn up the skeleton of this in a simple CAD program I have. I've also spoken with a couple of customers that might be able to help me get things rolling once I settle on a design. I'll be Goose hunting in Valentine this weekend and after that the plan is to get the shop cleaned up and prepare to start some prototypes with what limited tools for mfg I have in my shop. I'm pretty lucky as well as we're getting a new CNC Mill into our showroom in the next month which will really help out. I'll toss on my indexer and be able to really play with things! My hope is that by March I'll have a few different prototypes ready to go! I'd like to start testing then! That's it for now... I'll update this thread as I do more. Aric __________________ "The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over!

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