Question: Crop percentage still in?

[DiggerDog]

Originally Posted by BPbowhunter

Does it say anywhere in the lease that the crops have to be out? If it doesn't then how does it make the land sub-par?


DiggerDog, please don't take this the wrong way, but also coming from a farming/ranching family, I highly doubt the farmers not doing anything. This is the most stressfull time of year for farmers, add the lateness of the crops to it and it multiplies it by ten.

I'm sure he's probably doing everything he can to get those crops out, he doesn't make any money from them sitting in a field.

I highly doubt he is sitting around watching The Price is Right and Oprah. What I'm saying is he knows the land we've leased is leased for hunting. Aside from the fact he doesn't care, I can't think of a reason why he hasn't harvested the corn yet. Again, our field, the field to the north, and the field to the SE are the only fields in the immediate area that is not harvested.

I'm sure he doesn't care about us, but Farmers National should since we are their customer. Both parties have done nothing to get the corn out of the land we've leased to hunt.

[DiggerDog]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

Have you talked to the farmer DD? Maybe he is planning on getting that corn out tomorrow, which could be good/bad depending on how far away from the corn you are. Might be worth a call if it would be a bad thing for him to be out there while you are.

Farmers National (Hunters Lease Network) will not tell us who the Farm Manager is. One of the guys in our group emailed Farmers National (Hunters Lease Network) yesterday asking when the corn will be out. Our HLN contact told him he spoke with Farm Manager. The Farm Manager told HLN he thought he would get to it around Thanksgiving. He added it could be sooner or later and that he coudn't pin point a particular day.

[Alex T.]

I'd say 80% of the crops are out(and alot of combines were in the fields) in the area we turkey hunted this morning.

Alex

[DiggerDog]

Originally Posted by Alex T.

I'd say 80% of the crops are out(and alot of combines were in the fields) in the area we turkey hunted this morning.

Alex

Thanks Alex, that makes me feel good right about now.


Like I said earlier. We'll make the best of the situation that is handed to us. But it pi$$es us off is that we paid good money for a great place to hunt. Instead - we've paid a lot of money to access what could be a great place to hunt. There is a HUGE difference

[huskerduckhunter]

Originally Posted by DiggerDog

Farmers National (Hunters Lease Network) will not tell us who the Farm Manager is.

So you don't actually get to know who farms the ground? You have to go though Farmers National? That's really not helpful since you can't actually talk to the farmer.

[DUHunt]

Good luck tomorrow dd. I hope that it doesn't hinder you opportunity too much.

BP, the fact that it is a stressful time matters little when the farmer has already agreed to lease the ground out and has already received income from the ground. It is just a really shady thing to do. Its not DD fault that the farmer is stressed. Heck, I own my own business and there are certian times of the year when I am stressed as well but that doesn't excuse what is going on here. My guess is he paid a couple thousand dollars to hunt this ground. Like I said it was a business transaction and DD is getting the short end of a sharp, pointy stick.

[grainmaker181]

Originally Posted by huskerduckhunter

So you don't actually get to know who farms the ground? You have to go though Farmers National? That's really not helpful since you can't actually talk to the farmer.

dont be mad at the farmer, it is in his best interest to get the crop out asap, be mad at the middle man that signed you up for a bad lease agreement, he probably promised you the world, and the landowner the same thing, we have had these same kinda guys contact us about leasing the hunting rights on our farmground, they prey on people who dont have any contacts and are willing to pay for something easy to find.

btw what kinda ground is this? i assume it isnt just a plain cornfield, is there creek bottom? if so i would be glad that "your" field is the only with standing corn in the area still, deer are just like you and i, they dont like walking and chasing does in standing corn, they would prefer to travel the edges and will be traveling in between, they use the corn for cover and bedding, with rifle season tomorrow it should be easy pickin seeing deer go in and out

[huskerduckhunter]

Originally Posted by DUHunt

Good luck tomorrow dd. I hope that it doesn't hinder you opportunity too much.

BP, the fact that it is a stressful time matters little when the farmer has already agreed to lease the ground out and has already received income from the ground.

The farmer is not the one leasing the ground out. Farmers National owns the ground and leases it to a farmer to farm, and also leases hunting rights to hunters. The farmer is receiving no income from the hunting lease. Or at least thats my understanding, correct me if I'm wrong Digger.

[grainmaker181]

Originally Posted by huskerduckhunter

Or at least thats my understanding, correct me if I'm wrong Digger.

my understanding is that farmers national or the leasing company comes to farmers doors, phonecalls, emails, mailings with a "want to earn extra income from your farm" kinda deal where the farmer strictly signs over hunting rights to farmers national, which then they sublet to suckers.

advice to leasees from farmers national, go to the courthouse in your county, get a "plat map" look up the landowner, call them and offer them half of what you payed farmers national for their hunting rights the year before, and listen to them say deal very fast, little homework will save lots of money by cutting out the middle man

[DiggerDog]

Originally Posted by DiggerDog

Farmers National (Hunters Lease Network) will not tell us who the Farm Manager is. One of the guys in our group emailed Farmers National (Hunters Lease Network) yesterday asking when the corn will be out. Our HLN contact told him he spoke with Farm Manager. The Farm Manager told HLN he thought he would get to it around Thanksgiving. He added it could be sooner or later and that he coudn't pin point a particular day.

Thanksgiving came early. When we arrived this morning the east piece was harvested. Around 9am we heard a combine. After sitting for hours without seeing much - we left. We left because of inactivity; but mostly to let the farmer harvest without worry from us.

We'll be back first thing tomorrow morning.

Thank you for getting to the harvest much sooner than what Hunters Lease Network told us you would. We owe you one........ or two.

[A RIDDLE]

You have to remember that the spring planting season was hels up a long time due to rain, this should be an automatic understanding that we would have a late harvest. Trust me that the farmer wants nothing more than to have his crops in the bin, be patient, change tacticts, and it just may be the best year you've had for seeing deer moving during the daylight hours. Just hunt the travel lanes. Good luck

[DiggerDog]

Originally Posted by grainmaker181

dont be mad at the farmer, it is in his best interest to get the crop out asap, be mad at the middle man that signed you up for a bad lease agreement, he probably promised you the world, and the landowner the same thing, we have had these same kinda guys contact us about leasing the hunting rights on our farmground, they prey on people who dont have any contacts and are willing to pay for something easy to find.

btw what kinda ground is this? i assume it isnt just a plain cornfield, is there creek bottom? if so i would be glad that "your" field is the only with standing corn in the area still, deer are just like you and i, they dont like walking and chasing does in standing corn, they would prefer to travel the edges and will be traveling in between, they use the corn for cover and bedding, with rifle season tomorrow it should be easy pickin seeing deer go in and out

There is a winding creek through the woods. When we leased the land we knew there would be cattle in the woods. However I had 27 cows go behind my tree stand today. 27 is a lot more than a few.

We think the cows are keeping the deer out of the woods. Maybe we are wrong.....but we didn't see a lot of deer today. We're still optimistic.

[grainmaker181]

Originally Posted by DiggerDog

There is a winding creek through the woods. When we leased the land we knew there would be cattle in the woods. However I had 27 cows go behind my tree stand today. 27 is a lot more than a few.

We think the cows are keeping the deer out of the woods. Maybe we are wrong.....but we didn't see a lot of deer today. We're still optimistic.

glad to see you are being more optmistic, i really dont see what you were frustrated with from earlier posts, crops being in is a blessing in my mind compared to the creek bottom being pastured, id rather have standing corn any day over cattle in my area, but you knew about that, but good on the optimism, rifle season is very young still, and the changing weather should be helpful, good luck

[DiggerDog]

Originally Posted by grainmaker181

glad to see you are being more optmistic, i really dont see what you were frustrated with from earlier posts, crops being in is a blessing in my mind compared to the creek bottom being pastured, id rather have standing corn any day over cattle in my area, but you knew about that, but good on the optimism, rifle season is very young still, and the changing weather should be helpful, good luck

I think we were frustrated because the neighboring lands were harvested, we're still learning this piece, and we paid a lot of money to get deer.

Day one one is gone. We still have eight remaining days for hunting with rifle, the month of December for ML, and the first two weeks of January to get deer.

Now that the corn is out - all is good.