"Why Johnny Won't Hunt"

OldBaldGuy · 11-25-2008, 04:54 PM

Got the following message from Daryl, and he asked me to pass it along:

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This is an excellent article that ALL hunters, fishers, and trappers should read!
http://www.fieldandstream.com/articl...hnny-Wont-Hunt
Daryl B.

...which reminds me that I haven't heard much lately about NGPC's Hunter/Angler Recruitment, Development Retention planning.

fish_finder · 11-25-2008, 04:59 PM

Link seems to be broken somehow.

Why Johnny Won't Hunt - Field & Stream

DiggerDog · 11-25-2008, 06:12 PM

Why Johnny Won't Hunt
Rampant urbanization, changed cultural values, and the new American religions of organized sports and electronic entertainment are keeping kids out of the woods. But our eroding commitment could be the fatal blow.
Bob Marshall

The lines on the graphs are grim, reading like an epitaph on a tombstone. One shows the adult population growing older; the other reveals that arrivals from the next generation are falling.

Sportsmen know these are the signs of species fighting for survival. Similar equations have clouded the future of canvasbacks and steelhead, grizzlies and bull trout.

But this report is even more troubling. This one is about us.

Hunting's vital signs continue the steady decline that began in the 1970s, according to a wave of research released this year. A new U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service survey shows that our total numbers are down: just 12.5 million, dropping half a million in the last five years alone. Our average age is up: 24 percent of us are over 55, whereas only 12 percent of us are under 25. Recruitment is failing: 38 percent fewer newcomers joined our ranks in the last 15 years. And the proportion of Americans who hunt has dropped to 3 percent, a figure guaranteed to shrink as the general population continues to expand.

The decline persists despite an ever expanding menu of private and government programs designed to spur interest in the sport. States and industry groups rightfully trumpet their occasional successes, yet a few strokes on a calculator bring reality crashing back: If the sport continues to shed about 100,000 members a year, there will be very few of us left by 2050.

Why don't our sons and daughters hunt? Studies provide many compelling statistics, and statistical analysts offer further insight. But science often misses nuances available only to the participants in a story. So we also solicited answers from some of the most respected thinkers in the hunting community—wildlife agency managers, heads of conservation groups, journalists who have covered the issue for decades. Their remarks cut to a cold, hard bottom line: It's all about urbanization, time—and us.

The first two elements of the equation are easy to understand, because they track the loss of quick and easy access to hunting lands driven by the shift in America's population from rural areas to urban centers, and the increased demands of today's society.

But that third piece is painful, because it requires a long look in the mirror—where one of our sport's greatest problems will be staring back.

Less Land, Less Opportunity
It was no coincidence the number of hunters started dropping at about the same time America's population began shifting in earnest from rural landscapes to the metropolises that now dominate our demographics. But the impact was far greater than meets the eye.

Most obviously, the redistribution pulled hunters away from their traditional hunting grounds. Sportsmen who once lived next to wildlife habitat now face logistical challenges just to get to huntable terrain. The associated changes in land-use practices added to the problem. Expanding cities colonized wildlife habitat for suburbs. Farms and forests were gobbled up by industry or private clubs. In the space of a single decade, going hunting became a complicated process.

This was the "lack of access" issue that surfaced when state fish and wildlife agencies first began studying the decline in hunting license sales. Sportsmen complained that hunting now took more time and money. Many had to cut back on their hunting frequency. Others dropped out.

To professional wildlife managers studying the changes, the complaints of disgruntled adult sportsmen signaled that a far more serious problem was being set in motion: The wave of veteran hunters leaving the sport would set off a ripple effect guaranteeing ever fewer new hunters in the future.

In wildlife biology, this problem—called recruitment failure—is recognized as a sure symptom of species demise. Today it has a growing number of people agonizing over the future of hunting.

It all goes back to that shift from farms to cities.

"The largest threat to hunting is the separation of the population from rural traditions," explains Jeffrey Reh, vice president of Beretta U.S.A. "Because the hunting tradition is often passed down through generations or is shared with friends, as more people become separated from hunting, fewer people are available to share the sport."

George Cooper, president and CEO of the Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership, says the sport is "dying the death of a thousand cuts" but points to recruitment failure as the potentially lethal slice.

"Declines in hunter numbers perpetuate themselves, as fewer mentors mean fewer young hunters," Cooper says. "The long-term implications of these trends are downright scary."

A Fatal Time Share
There is another factor at work, as both our respondents and the researchers point out: Hunting today faces much stiffer competition for the attention and loyalty of young people than it did 30 years ago.

The typical family living in today's metroplexes comprises working parents who run their children's lives on tightly scheduled circuits, moving them quickly between school and extracurricular activities: soccer and Little League, martial arts and music. Many of these activities feature weekend competitions, consuming days once set aside for hunting.

Rich Landers, award-winning outdoors columnist for the Spokane Spokesman-Review (and an F&S contributing editor), says that of the three things hunters need to stay in the game—money, access, and time—the first two seldom stop a determined sportsman. But the third can be a killer. "Time is something that seems to be slipping away from all Americans," he writes.

Indeed, results from a survey released this year, The Future of Hunting and the Shooting Sports, conducted by Responsive Management for the National Shooting Sports Foundation, point to a lack of time as the leading cause for the loss of hunters.

When inactive hunters were asked why they had reduced or stopped hunting, 40 percent of them listed a lack of time as the main reason. The second most cited reason—35 percent—was family obligations. What's more, this was a significant increase over the responses given 12 years earlier in those same categories.

Families today are presented with menus of leisure-time activities unparalleled in American history, from traditional playground sports to the new world of digital entertainment. Adults as well as their children are choosing those pursuits over hunting.

And that word—choosing—brings us to the uncomfortable part of the equation: us.

A Conscious Decision Not to Hunt
For three decades, researchers tasked with explaining hunting's decline have asked sportsmen a stream of questions that center on two general themes: What prevents you from hunting? What would make it easier? The implication in this line of inquiry is that hunters are being blocked from participation in the sport by factors beyond their control: lack of access, costs, and regulations.

Some experts, however, are beginning to think the more honest question would be: Why is something else more important to you than hunting? Why do you prefer playing soccer dad to hunting? Or buying NFL season tickets; tailgating at State U.; a trip to Disney World; joining Junior at the video-game controls; a skiing vacation in Vail?

This query addresses the point that, in most cases, the reason a hunter leaves the sport—and takes potential future generations with him—is that he's made a choice not to hunt.

Many of the activities ex-hunters now participate in take as much time and money as a hunt. So what's behind their decision?

It would be easy to call these lapsed hunters deserters. But the answer is more complicated, says Richard Louv, whose bestselling book Last Child in the Woods is recognized as a groundbreaking work on this issue. In Louv's view, the last two generations of American children have experienced little contact with the natural world and thus have no understanding or appreciation of it.

Hunting's decline is just part of the overall withdrawal of kids from all things outdoors, Louv notes. Other outdoor pursuits are suffering similar recruitment failure.

Why is that happening?

"The simple, knee-jerk reaction is to blame electronics—television, video games—or the time constraints in suburban life that have us overscheduling our children's free time, carpooling them to myriad after-school activities," Louv says. "But it eventually comes down to a matter of choices.

"And parents are making those choices, I believe, because society has decided, in general, not to value being outdoors with kids. It places a higher value on these other activities."

So are parents the culprits? Are they making these decisions because it's easier to plop a kid in front of a computer or shuttle him to soccer practice than to invest the personal time required to take him to the woods or marsh and teach him the traditions of hunting?

Yes, and no, Louv says. Parents—including many who have hunted since they were children—are caving in to a changing world, giving in to messages of good parenting sent out by the society in which they live.

"If society values these other activities more, then they must be the right choice for raising healthy, happy individuals," Louv explains. And of course, "Any responsible parents want that for their children.

"But guess what?" he continues. "The cognitive studies show that getting your kids outdoors on a regular basis makes them healthier, happier, and even smarter. That is the message that needs to get out to parents. Then they'll have support for making other choices."

Which means that when the weekend for hunter-safety training rolls around, Johnny will miss soccer practice, or even a match. It means that when deer season opens, Johnny may not be at the hockey rink. It means your vacation at Walt Disney World may have to be canceled this year, because you can't afford both the trip and a deer or elk hunt. Taking this step, Louv warns, can be challenging.

"It still isn't easy to buck the trend, go against the dominant wave when you're acting alone. That's why I recommend parents band together," he says. "If one parent approaches the soccer coach, he might get turned down. But if half the team is represented, you can get an accommodation.

"This is critically important to children, to the health of our environment, and to outdoors traditions such as hunting. It's a choice that we as a society must make, but parents must make it first."

In fact, wildlife professionals have been beating the same drum for some time. The few states that have actually shown increases in license sales and recruitment offer mentoring programs aimed at attracting new hunters by keeping the veterans in the game. Obviously, such programs will work only if veteran hunters make the commitment to help.

"It takes a hunter to make a hunter" is the bottom line for Matt Frank, secretary of the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources, which has had great success with its Learn to Hunt Program.

And all the experts we consulted pointed out that the entire nation has a stake in this challenge. Sportsmen founded the nation's environmental movement. The conservation model that hunters and anglers developed here—making public lands and wildlife resources accessible to everyone—has become the envy of the world. Now, that species of sportsman-conservationist is facing recruitment failure, and this leaves more than the tradition of public hunting at risk.

"Having less competition isn't all bad for those of us who relish an uninterrupted stalk on opening day," says Landers. "But if the public continues to be more detached from the woods, the support for land and wildlife conservation will erode, and soon there won't be enough voices to say 'What the hell?' when wetlands are drained. It's just a matter of time."

Reversing the ominous trends exposed in those graphs and charts is steadily being identified as the next great conservation challenge for sportsmen.

"Hunters are the most willing to give their own dollars for wildlife conservation," says Mike Checkett of Ducks Unlimited. "But if we do not engage today's youth in our hunting heritage and traditions, the future of both hunting and conservation looks grim."

GenericAngler · 11-25-2008, 08:30 PM

All of my childhood hunting haunts are now subdivisions and my favorite pheasant field now holds a wal-mart, home depot and 20 screen megaplex.

Part of me thinks that recruiting new hunters would be like inviting people to a grand opening of a new "carrier pigeon / dodo bird" zoo....And the other part of me (the one who spent my last few years in the field wearing orange from head to toe and praying not to get hit with a stray bullet), thinks that public hunting today may be good training for entering a combat zone.

Granted, moving out to the Midwest has opened a few doors that have long been closed in other parts of the country where I came from.....But the increased chatter about "leased land" and "private hunts" are warning signs that ring in tune to what I had seen in the past that are precursors to a decrease in hunting land and habitat more so than an open invitation to "grow the sport".

DiggerDog · 11-25-2008, 08:36 PM

Because of lack of land access and a fear of NE's over-crowded public hunting land, this year was first year in 20+ years that I didn't make it out for the rifle deer season. I'm sure I'm not the only one who missed out on the hunt.

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Originally Posted by OldBaldGuy

...which reminds me that I haven't heard much lately about NGPC's Hunter/Angler Recruitment, Development Retention planning.

That's because not much, if anything, has been or is being done. If so, we would have heard something about it. I know one thing for certain - more land hasn't been opened up for hunting.

fish2 · 11-25-2008, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DiggerDog

Because of lack of land access and a fear of NE's over-crowded public hunting land, this year was first year in 20+ years that I didn't make it out for the rifle deer season. I'm sure I'm not the only one who missed out on the hunt.

That's because not much, if anything, has been or is being done. If so, we would have heard something about it. I know one thing for certain - more land hasn't been opened up for hunting.

Why must you always bring it back to this issue? Bottom line. The funds aren't there to provide more public hunting ground. I guarantee i have as little if not less access to private hunting as you do and this doesn't effect how hard or how often I hunt. The root of the problem is the selfishness of todays hunters. When was the last time you sacrificed a day to expose someone to hunting?

DiggerDog · 11-25-2008, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by fish2

Why must you always bring it back to this issue? Bottom line. The funds aren't there to provide more public hunting ground. I guarantee i have as little if not less access to private hunting as you do and this doesn't effect how hard or how often I hunt. The root of the problem is the selfishness of todays hunters. When was the last time you sacrificed a day to expose someone to hunting?

Because nothing is being done to resolve the issue. If something were being done, then there wouldn't be an issue - now would there?

Bottom line, without adequate, let alone excellent, land to expose someone to hunting where would you suggest I take them?

Now OBG was wondering what happened to the NGPC's Hunter/Angler Recruitment, Development Retention planning and I was bringing him up to speed.

fish2 · 11-25-2008, 10:42 PM

Good quail this year.
Yesterday morning we went out to some CRP-MAP land here in Gage county, and had a great morning. It start by walking some thin weeds to get to the thicker grass, where we saw quite a few prairie chickens fly out ahead of us. Next we started working the grass along a old fence row with some downed trees and a few patchy plum thickets. After a few minutes Betsy pointed and we flushed a nice covey of mostly young looking birds. I took a double on the covey rise and then started looking for where the covey had split to. While walking down the row I stepped on another cover about 40 feet from where the first took off. So I worked both of these large(12-15 birds each) coveys and took a few birds. The dog work was awesome! My dog has really come into her prime this season. She knows what I'm thinking and does it wonderfully. We are really working as a team now, and seeing her work is beautiful. I'm very proud of my pup, she just love to hunt. Here are a few pics of the morning, all public ground, found 3 coveys. Great day!

Why don't you ever post on threads like this?

fish2 · 11-25-2008, 10:44 PM

Your dog looks awefully bored. Why don't you take him HUNTING?

DiggerDog · 11-25-2008, 10:48 PM

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Good quail this year.
Yesterday morning we went out to some CRP-MAP land here in Gage county, and had a great morning. It start by walking some thin weeds to get to the thicker grass, where we saw quite a few prairie chickens fly out ahead of us. Next we started working the grass along a old fence row with some downed trees and a few patchy plum thickets. After a few minutes Betsy pointed and we flushed a nice covey of mostly young looking birds. I took a double on the covey rise and then started looking for where the covey had split to. While walking down the row I stepped on another cover about 40 feet from where the first took off. So I worked both of these large(12-15 birds each) coveys and took a few birds. The dog work was awesome! My dog has really come into her prime this season. She knows what I'm thinking and does it wonderfully. We are really working as a team now, and seeing her work is beautiful. I'm very proud of my pup, she just love to hunt. Here are a few pics of the morning, all public ground, found 3 coveys. Great day!

Why don't you ever post on threads like this?

I'm not into fiction? Once it happens I'll write about it.

DiggerDog · 11-25-2008, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fish2

Your dog looks awefully bored. Why don't you take him HUNTING?

That look is of old age. He's almost 14.

fish2 · 11-25-2008, 10:54 PM

Next time i limit out on public land you will be the first to know when, why, where and how.

DiggerDog · 11-25-2008, 11:01 PM

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Next time i limit out on public land you will be the first to know when, why, where and how.

I'll bet you tell us, or me, you did within the next week or so.

At least you used the right smile list icon for your upcoming story.

fish2 · 11-25-2008, 11:03 PM

[quote=DiggerDog;166321]I'll bet you tell us, or me, you did within the next week or so.

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DiggerDog · 11-25-2008, 11:07 PM

[quote=fish2;166322]

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Originally Posted by DiggerDog

I'll bet you tell us, or me, you did within the next week or so.

?

The time period in which you tell us you limited out on public land.

Mr. Boston · 11-25-2008, 11:14 PM

Back to the topic....I really don't think its access. I believe its more cultural. I work in an office of around 400 people- I know zero that hunt. How many of you have company skeet shooting leagues instead of golf outings? I bet its very few.

It takes a ton of time to get someone interested in hunting and fishing, often its an acquired taste that takes years to culture.

It all starts by taking someone new a few times a year and then hoping a passion grows.

fish2 · 11-25-2008, 11:17 PM

I'm done. Your right, there are no good public hunting or fishing opportunities in Ne.

DiggerDog · 11-25-2008, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Boston

Back to the topic....I really don't think its access. I believe its more cultural. I work in an office of around 400 people- I know zero that hunt. How many of you have company skeet shooting leagues instead of golf outings? I bet its very few.

It takes a ton of time to get someone interested in hunting and fishing, often its an acquired taste that takes years to culture.

It all starts by taking someone new a few times a year and then hoping a passion grows.

I agree with your post. But without the land access where do you take those people for a successful hunt to start the passion? It does take time but in that time there has to be success or the passion will never increase.

As long as we keep pushing, we'll get back to what Nebraska used to be......I hope.

Mr. Boston · 11-25-2008, 11:28 PM

I measure success in terms of experiences not the kill. I took my wife out during rifle and although we didn't shoot a big buck we saw some little bucks fighting which was really cool and it made the trip.

A six or seven year old isn't going to know what a limit is. They just know they got to wake up and go with the big boys and hold a gun (even if its a BB Gun).

I agree with you if your starting on someone in their teens or older - its tough without action. But everyday action isn't realistic anyway so why create a false impression.

DiggerDog · 11-25-2008, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Boston

I measure success in terms of experiences not the kill. I took my wife out during rifle and although we didn't shoot a big buck we saw some little bucks fighting which was really cool and it made the trip.

A six or seven year old isn't going to know what a limit is. They just know they got to wake up and go with the big boys and hold a gun (even if its a BB Gun).

I agree with you if your starting on someone in their

11-25-2008, 06:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
DiggerDog Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: At home, in the field, in a blind, in a boat, at our cabin, on a plane, or in a hotel room Posts: 454 Thanks: 14 Thanked 15 Times in 12 Posts	Why Johnny Won't Hunt Rampant urbanization, changed cultural values, and the new American religions of organized sports and electronic entertainment are keeping kids out of the woods. But our eroding commitment could be the fatal blow. Bob Marshall The lines on the graphs are grim, reading like an epitaph on a tombstone. One shows the adult population growing older; the other reveals that arrivals from the next generation are falling. Sportsmen know these are the signs of species fighting for survival. Similar equations have clouded the future of canvasbacks and steelhead, grizzlies and bull trout. But this report is even more troubling. This one is about us. Hunting's vital signs continue the steady decline that began in the 1970s, according to a wave of research released this year. A new U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service survey shows that our total numbers are down: just 12.5 million, dropping half a million in the last five years alone. Our average age is up: 24 percent of us are over 55, whereas only 12 percent of us are under 25. Recruitment is failing: 38 percent fewer newcomers joined our ranks in the last 15 years. And the proportion of Americans who hunt has dropped to 3 percent, a figure guaranteed to shrink as the general population continues to expand. The decline persists despite an ever expanding menu of private and government programs designed to spur interest in the sport. States and industry groups rightfully trumpet their occasional successes, yet a few strokes on a calculator bring reality crashing back: If the sport continues to shed about 100,000 members a year, there will be very few of us left by 2050. Why don't our sons and daughters hunt? Studies provide many compelling statistics, and statistical analysts offer further insight. But science often misses nuances available only to the participants in a story. So we also solicited answers from some of the most respected thinkers in the hunting community—wildlife agency managers, heads of conservation groups, journalists who have covered the issue for decades. Their remarks cut to a cold, hard bottom line: It's all about urbanization, time—and us. The first two elements of the equation are easy to understand, because they track the loss of quick and easy access to hunting lands driven by the shift in America's population from rural areas to urban centers, and the increased demands of today's society. But that third piece is painful, because it requires a long look in the mirror—where one of our sport's greatest problems will be staring back. Less Land, Less Opportunity It was no coincidence the number of hunters started dropping at about the same time America's population began shifting in earnest from rural landscapes to the metropolises that now dominate our demographics. But the impact was far greater than meets the eye. Most obviously, the redistribution pulled hunters away from their traditional hunting grounds. Sportsmen who once lived next to wildlife habitat now face logistical challenges just to get to huntable terrain. The associated changes in land-use practices added to the problem. Expanding cities colonized wildlife habitat for suburbs. Farms and forests were gobbled up by industry or private clubs. In the space of a single decade, going hunting became a complicated process. This was the "lack of access" issue that surfaced when state fish and wildlife agencies first began studying the decline in hunting license sales. Sportsmen complained that hunting now took more time and money. Many had to cut back on their hunting frequency. Others dropped out. To professional wildlife managers studying the changes, the complaints of disgruntled adult sportsmen signaled that a far more serious problem was being set in motion: The wave of veteran hunters leaving the sport would set off a ripple effect guaranteeing ever fewer new hunters in the future. In wildlife biology, this problem—called recruitment failure—is recognized as a sure symptom of species demise. Today it has a growing number of people agonizing over the future of hunting. It all goes back to that shift from farms to cities. "The largest threat to hunting is the separation of the population from rural traditions," explains Jeffrey Reh, vice president of Beretta U.S.A. "Because the hunting tradition is often passed down through generations or is shared with friends, as more people become separated from hunting, fewer people are available to share the sport." George Cooper, president and CEO of the Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership, says the sport is "dying the death of a thousand cuts" but points to recruitment failure as the potentially lethal slice. "Declines in hunter numbers perpetuate themselves, as fewer mentors mean fewer young hunters," Cooper says. "The long-term implications of these trends are downright scary." A Fatal Time Share There is another factor at work, as both our respondents and the researchers point out: Hunting today faces much stiffer competition for the attention and loyalty of young people than it did 30 years ago. The typical family living in today's metroplexes comprises working parents who run their children's lives on tightly scheduled circuits, moving them quickly between school and extracurricular activities: soccer and Little League, martial arts and music. Many of these activities feature weekend competitions, consuming days once set aside for hunting. Rich Landers, award-winning outdoors columnist for the Spokane Spokesman-Review (and an F&S contributing editor), says that of the three things hunters need to stay in the game—money, access, and time—the first two seldom stop a determined sportsman. But the third can be a killer. "Time is something that seems to be slipping away from all Americans," he writes. Indeed, results from a survey released this year, The Future of Hunting and the Shooting Sports, conducted by Responsive Management for the National Shooting Sports Foundation, point to a lack of time as the leading cause for the loss of hunters. When inactive hunters were asked why they had reduced or stopped hunting, 40 percent of them listed a lack of time as the main reason. The second most cited reason—35 percent—was family obligations. What's more, this was a significant increase over the responses given 12 years earlier in those same categories. Families today are presented with menus of leisure-time activities unparalleled in American history, from traditional playground sports to the new world of digital entertainment. Adults as well as their children are choosing those pursuits over hunting. And that word—choosing—brings us to the uncomfortable part of the equation: us. A Conscious Decision Not to Hunt For three decades, researchers tasked with explaining hunting's decline have asked sportsmen a stream of questions that center on two general themes: What prevents you from hunting? What would make it easier? The implication in this line of inquiry is that hunters are being blocked from participation in the sport by factors beyond their control: lack of access, costs, and regulations. Some experts, however, are beginning to think the more honest question would be: Why is something else more important to you than hunting? Why do you prefer playing soccer dad to hunting? Or buying NFL season tickets; tailgating at State U.; a trip to Disney World; joining Junior at the video-game controls; a skiing vacation in Vail? This query addresses the point that, in most cases, the reason a hunter leaves the sport—and takes potential future generations with him—is that he's made a choice not to hunt. Many of the activities ex-hunters now participate in take as much time and money as a hunt. So what's behind their decision? It would be easy to call these lapsed hunters deserters. But the answer is more complicated, says Richard Louv, whose bestselling book Last Child in the Woods is recognized as a groundbreaking work on this issue. In Louv's view, the last two generations of American children have experienced little contact with the natural world and thus have no understanding or appreciation of it. Hunting's decline is just part of the overall withdrawal of kids from all things outdoors, Louv notes. Other outdoor pursuits are suffering similar recruitment failure. Why is that happening? "The simple, knee-jerk reaction is to blame electronics—television, video games—or the time constraints in suburban life that have us overscheduling our children's free time, carpooling them to myriad after-school activities," Louv says. "But it eventually comes down to a matter of choices. "And parents are making those choices, I believe, because society has decided, in general, not to value being outdoors with kids. It places a higher value on these other activities." So are parents the culprits? Are they making these decisions because it's easier to plop a kid in front of a computer or shuttle him to soccer practice than to invest the personal time required to take him to the woods or marsh and teach him the traditions of hunting? Yes, and no, Louv says. Parents—including many who have hunted since they were children—are caving in to a changing world, giving in to messages of good parenting sent out by the society in which they live. "If society values these other activities more, then they must be the right choice for raising healthy, happy individuals," Louv explains. And of course, "Any responsible parents want that for their children. "But guess what?" he continues. "The cognitive studies show that getting your kids outdoors on a regular basis makes them healthier, happier, and even smarter. That is the message that needs to get out to parents. Then they'll have support for making other choices." Which means that when the weekend for hunter-safety training rolls around, Johnny will miss soccer practice, or even a match. It means that when deer season opens, Johnny may not be at the hockey rink. It means your vacation at Walt Disney World may have to be canceled this year, because you can't afford both the trip and a deer or elk hunt. Taking this step, Louv warns, can be challenging. "It still isn't easy to buck the trend, go against the dominant wave when you're acting alone. That's why I recommend parents band together," he says. "If one parent approaches the soccer coach, he might get turned down. But if half the team is represented, you can get an accommodation. "This is critically important to children, to the health of our environment, and to outdoors traditions such as hunting. It's a choice that we as a society must make, but parents must make it first." In fact, wildlife professionals have been beating the same drum for some time. The few states that have actually shown increases in license sales and recruitment offer mentoring programs aimed at attracting new hunters by keeping the veterans in the game. Obviously, such programs will work only if veteran hunters make the commitment to help. "It takes a hunter to make a hunter" is the bottom line for Matt Frank, secretary of the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources, which has had great success with its Learn to Hunt Program. And all the experts we consulted pointed out that the entire nation has a stake in this challenge. Sportsmen founded the nation's environmental movement. The conservation model that hunters and anglers developed here—making public lands and wildlife resources accessible to everyone—has become the envy of the world. Now, that species of sportsman-conservationist is facing recruitment failure, and this leaves more than the tradition of public hunting at risk. "Having less competition isn't all bad for those of us who relish an uninterrupted stalk on opening day," says Landers. "But if the public continues to be more detached from the woods, the support for land and wildlife conservation will erode, and soon there won't be enough voices to say 'What the hell?' when wetlands are drained. It's just a matter of time." Reversing the ominous trends exposed in those graphs and charts is steadily being identified as the next great conservation challenge for sportsmen. "Hunters are the most willing to give their own dollars for wildlife conservation," says Mike Checkett of Ducks Unlimited. "But if we do not engage today's youth in our hunting heritage and traditions, the future of both hunting and conservation looks grim." __________________ "When you have shot one bird flying you have shot all birds flying. They are all different and they fly in different ways but the sensation is the same and the last one is as good as the first." - Ernest Hemingway

11-25-2008, 08:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
GenericAngler Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the Weeping Water Posts: 1,333 Thanks: 15 Thanked 9 Times in 5 Posts	All of my childhood hunting haunts are now subdivisions and my favorite pheasant field now holds a wal-mart, home depot and 20 screen megaplex. Part of me thinks that recruiting new hunters would be like inviting people to a grand opening of a new "carrier pigeon / dodo bird" zoo....And the other part of me (the one who spent my last few years in the field wearing orange from head to toe and praying not to get hit with a stray bullet), thinks that public hunting today may be good training for entering a combat zone. Granted, moving out to the Midwest has opened a few doors that have long been closed in other parts of the country where I came from.....But the increased chatter about "leased land" and "private hunts" are warning signs that ring in tune to what I had seen in the past that are precursors to a decrease in hunting land and habitat more so than an open invitation to "grow the sport". __________________ Don't underestimate the appeal of a 10" carp to someone who has been locked inside the cabin since ice up.

11-25-2008, 04:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
fish_finder Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Lincoln Posts: 651 Thanks: 11 Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts	Link seems to be broken somehow. Why Johnny Won't Hunt - Field & Stream

11-25-2008, 10:42 PM	#8 (permalink)
fish2 Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 156 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Good quail this year. Yesterday morning we went out to some CRP-MAP land here in Gage county, and had a great morning. It start by walking some thin weeds to get to the thicker grass, where we saw quite a few prairie chickens fly out ahead of us. Next we started working the grass along a old fence row with some downed trees and a few patchy plum thickets. After a few minutes Betsy pointed and we flushed a nice covey of mostly young looking birds. I took a double on the covey rise and then started looking for where the covey had split to. While walking down the row I stepped on another cover about 40 feet from where the first took off. So I worked both of these large(12-15 birds each) coveys and took a few birds. The dog work was awesome! My dog has really come into her prime this season. She knows what I'm thinking and does it wonderfully. We are really working as a team now, and seeing her work is beautiful. I'm very proud of my pup, she just love to hunt. Here are a few pics of the morning, all public ground, found 3 coveys. Great day! Why don't you ever post on threads like this?

11-25-2008, 10:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
fish2 Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 156 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Your dog looks awefully bored. Why don't you take him HUNTING?

11-25-2008, 10:54 PM	#12 (permalink)
fish2 Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 156 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Next time i limit out on public land you will be the first to know when, why, where and how.

11-25-2008, 11:03 PM	#14 (permalink)
fish2 Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 156 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	[quote=DiggerDog;166321]I'll bet you tell us, or me, you did within the next week or so. ?

11-25-2008, 11:14 PM	#16 (permalink)
Mr. Boston Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: n/a Posts: 34 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Back to the topic....I really don't think its access. I believe its more cultural. I work in an office of around 400 people- I know zero that hunt. How many of you have company skeet shooting leagues instead of golf outings? I bet its very few. It takes a ton of time to get someone interested in hunting and fishing, often its an acquired taste that takes years to culture. It all starts by taking someone new a few times a year and then hoping a passion grows.

11-25-2008, 11:17 PM	#17 (permalink)
fish2 Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 156 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I'm done. Your right, there are no good public hunting or fishing opportunities in Ne.

11-25-2008, 11:28 PM	#19 (permalink)
Mr. Boston Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: n/a Posts: 34 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	I measure success in terms of experiences not the kill. I took my wife out during rifle and although we didn't shoot a big buck we saw some little bucks fighting which was really cool and it made the trip. A six or seven year old isn't going to know what a limit is. They just know they got to wake up and go with the big boys and hold a gun (even if its a BB Gun). I agree with you if your starting on someone in their teens or older - its tough without action. But everyday action isn't realistic anyway so why create a false impression.