Nebraska Fish and Game Association  


Go Back   Nebraska Fish and Game Association > Hunting > Nebraska Hunting Forum
Register All Albums FAQ NEFGA Home NEFGA Store Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Notices

Nebraska Hunting Forum Post your pictures, share your ideas and stories, ask for advice.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-10-2008, 10:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
Member
 
wneb.fisher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Chadron, NE
Posts: 161
Thanks: 4
Thanked 20 Times in 6 Posts
Default C'MERE Deer... What do you think?

So I was watching the string of hunting shows on yesterday and Hank Parker's 3D comes on. I think it is a decent show and his two boys can be pretty comical. The thing I dont get is the C'MERE Deer part. I know this is a deer attractant and apparently it draws them in like crazy. They even hunt over this stuff. And yes, I know in some states it is legal to do this. I guess I am just not used to seeing it televised so blatently. I am not a deer hunter, so I am just curious to see what you guys think of this stuff. Not trying to start a big debate here, just curious.
wneb.fisher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 10:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
Member
 
DiggerDog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: At home, in the field, in a blind, in a boat, at our cabin, on a plane, or in a hotel room
Posts: 454
Thanks: 14
Thanked 15 Times in 12 Posts
Default

I've never used it but my brother in-law and nephew in NY state swear by it. They say within a day the deer know where to find it.
__________________
"When you have shot one bird flying you have shot all birds flying. They are all different and they fly in different ways but the sensation is the same and the last one is as good as the first."
- Ernest Hemingway
DiggerDog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 11:03 AM   #3 (permalink)
tjm
Member
 
tjm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Norfolk, NE
Posts: 138
Thanks: 2
Thanked 8 Times in 4 Posts
Default

I've heard that some of those things do work, but realize Hank Parker uses it because he gets paid to use it. They also hunt Texas a lot on that show. Feeding deer and bait is very common in Texas.
tjm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 11:39 AM   #4 (permalink)
Moderator
 
Ty Stromquist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: in a treestand
Posts: 4,021
Thanks: 52
Thanked 25 Times in 20 Posts
Default

remember that in Nebraska the law states that you cant hunt withing 200 yards of it and that bait must be removed 60 days prior to when you are hunting an area.

Ive used a similar product for trail cams during the summer and will say that the best product I have found is those apple deer blocks at Bomgarrs. They literally will eat the dirt that it was placed at. Works awesome.
__________________
"Go afield with a good attitude, with respect for the wildlife you hunt and for the forest and fields you walk. Immerse yourself in the outdoor experience. It will cleanse your soul and make you a better person." - Fred Bear
Ty Stromquist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 12:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Niobrara River
Posts: 121
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post
Default

I've used about every attractant there is and I've never found one that works very well. If you want to bait, corn is cheap again.
laughingwatr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 12:41 PM   #6 (permalink)
Member
 
obert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: W. Omaha
Posts: 1,739
Thanks: 33
Thanked 28 Times in 20 Posts
Default

I sure wouldn't buy it. I've read things in other forums that the stuff didn't work at all, but deer cocaine did. Illegal to hunt over like ty mentioned in NE.
__________________
God bless the USA...
www.bowfishnebraska.org
obert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 04:11 PM   #7 (permalink)
Member
 
OldBaldGuy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: The paradise formerly known as Elkhorn
Certified Youth Fishing Instructor
NEFGA Line Recycling Volunteer
Posts: 5,553
Thanks: 59
Thanked 153 Times in 81 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ty Stromquist View Post
...Ive used a similar product for trail cams during the summer and will say that the best product I have found is those apple deer blocks at Bomgarrs. They literally will eat the dirt that it was placed at. Works awesome.
Too awesome. Don't put one anyplace you don't want to end up with an 18" deep hole about two feet in diameter. At least that was our experience. Deer continue to scrape out every bit that leaches into the soil.
__________________
“I think every happy memory plucks a hair from your head; if you see an old bald guy, he’s probably had a great life.” –-Red Green
OldBaldGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 04:16 PM   #8 (permalink)
Moderator
 
Ty Stromquist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: in a treestand
Posts: 4,021
Thanks: 52
Thanked 25 Times in 20 Posts
Default

exactly. That hole is huge. I believe it was Jan when we put one there last and went back this August to hang a stand and checked it out. That hole was HUGE.
__________________
"Go afield with a good attitude, with respect for the wildlife you hunt and for the forest and fields you walk. Immerse yourself in the outdoor experience. It will cleanse your soul and make you a better person." - Fred Bear
Ty Stromquist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 04:17 PM   #9 (permalink)
Member
 
Chasin 'eyes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Cortland
Posts: 274
Thanks: 2
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Tried the other stuff and the apple flavored deer corn at orschelns seems to work the best. I mixed some other pellet stuff with it and they actually picked out the pellets and pushed them aside. Don't hunt over em, more for my wife and daughters viewing enjoyment in the backyard and for the trailcam.

Just wondering, if we have such a huge deer population problem here in the East part of the state why not let you set out some bait areas that you are hunting. With the seasons choice and bonus tags it might help in certain pressured areas to reduce some does.
__________________
"Life's too short to drink cheap beer"
Chasin 'eyes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 04:23 PM   #10 (permalink)
Member
 
obert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: W. Omaha
Posts: 1,739
Thanks: 33
Thanked 28 Times in 20 Posts
Default

Quote:
Just wondering, if we have such a huge deer population problem here in the East part of the state why not let you set out some bait areas that you are hunting. With the seasons choice and bonus tags it might help in certain pressured areas to reduce some does.
Disease

I wouldn't mind if it was banned all together.
__________________
God bless the USA...
www.bowfishnebraska.org

Last edited by obert; 11-10-2008 at 04:28 PM.
obert is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to obert For This Useful Post:
Chasin 'eyes (11-10-2008)
Old 11-10-2008, 07:52 PM   #11 (permalink)
2007 NEFGA Outdoorsman Of The Year Finalist
 
cougarw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: In the wild
Posts: 1,480
Thanks: 7
Thanked 15 Times in 11 Posts
Default

I put out some of the liquid C'mere deer on a log like they do on TV. After a rain and it got dilluted the deer won't leave it alone. I have over 100 pics of a doe over a 6 hr period in the same afternoon. Since then almost every deer that passes take a bite out of that log.
cougarw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 08:04 PM   #12 (permalink)
Member
 
DiggerDog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: At home, in the field, in a blind, in a boat, at our cabin, on a plane, or in a hotel room
Posts: 454
Thanks: 14
Thanked 15 Times in 12 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cougarw View Post
I put out some of the liquid C'mere deer on a log like they do on TV. After a rain and it got dilluted the deer won't leave it alone. I have over 100 pics of a doe over a 6 hr period in the same afternoon. Since then almost every deer that passes take a bite out of that log.
That's what Dave and Mike said about their experiences with the stuff.
__________________
"When you have shot one bird flying you have shot all birds flying. They are all different and they fly in different ways but the sensation is the same and the last one is as good as the first."
- Ernest Hemingway
DiggerDog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 08:10 PM   #13 (permalink)
Member
 
racksniper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 145
Thanks: 7
Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts
Default

Looks like a joke to me, in my opinion if you cant get deer without a bait then you shouldnt probably be out there. Just my 2 cents.
__________________
CRAZYHORSE TAXIDERMY AND WILDLIFE ART
racksniper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 08:21 PM   #14 (permalink)
2007 NEFGA Outdoorsman Of The Year Finalist
 
cougarw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: In the wild
Posts: 1,480
Thanks: 7
Thanked 15 Times in 11 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by racksniper View Post
Looks like a joke to me, in my opinion if you cant get deer without a bait then you shouldnt probably be out there. Just my 2 cents.
Just so you know, the only reason most ppl put it out is to get good clear pics. I do agree if you can't get a deer without bait you should maybe spend a little more time in the woods and learn something about deer and their habits. But putting out mineral licks or whatever doesn't hurt for the trail cams.
cougarw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 08:22 PM   #15 (permalink)
Member
 
bigquackattack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Close to the creek
Posts: 128
Thanks: 4
Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by obert View Post
Disease

I wouldn't mind if it was banned all together.
Baiting promotes nose to nose contact between deer and that spreads disease whether bovine TB or chronic wasting. When I lived in Michigan baiting used to be the way of life. Any road side stand had apples, carrots and corn and sometimes sugar beets for sale. It got really bad. Guys would bring in literal truck loads of bait, usually corn or beets. I know a guy that hunted over a dump truck load of sugar beets.

Then Bovine TB broke out and baiting was outlawed in some parts of the state. The method of baiting in the rest of the state was changed and limited to five gallons of what ever and it had to be spread on the ground. Chronic wasting disease was discovered there recently and now all baiting has been outlawed everywhere in the state.

I don't really understand why someone in eastern Nebraska would want or need to bait. There are crops and crop residue all over the place. Actually a guy could argue there is too much bait especially since there is so much corn still in the fields. In areas where the crops are out or not planted in huge quantities, food plots can work. Food plots don't attract deer the same way as bait but can still get deer to visit a location on a regular basis.

If your property is not holding deer after the crops are out, then there is a problem with the property. In my case my property doesn't have a lot of cover once the leaves drop, but I am trying to change that.
bigquackattack is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to bigquackattack For This Useful Post:
Chasin 'eyes (11-10-2008), obert (11-10-2008)
Old 11-10-2008, 08:29 PM   #16 (permalink)
Member
 
obert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: W. Omaha
Posts: 1,739
Thanks: 33
Thanked 28 Times in 20 Posts
Default

well posted bigquack
I just got done reading about MI in one of my hunting magazines about a half hour ago. Some very interesting stuff.
__________________
God bless the USA...
www.bowfishnebraska.org
obert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 08:53 PM   #17 (permalink)
Member
 
DiggerDog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: At home, in the field, in a blind, in a boat, at our cabin, on a plane, or in a hotel room
Posts: 454
Thanks: 14
Thanked 15 Times in 12 Posts
Default

If these attractants really do spread disease why does the state allow them to be sold and purchased here in NE?
__________________
"When you have shot one bird flying you have shot all birds flying. They are all different and they fly in different ways but the sensation is the same and the last one is as good as the first."
- Ernest Hemingway
DiggerDog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 08:57 PM   #18 (permalink)
Member
 
obert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: W. Omaha
Posts: 1,739
Thanks: 33
Thanked 28 Times in 20 Posts
Default

Quote:
If these attractants really do spread disease why does the state allow them to be sold and purchased here in NE?
Just from what I understand in reading, is there is no proof that it does. There is only a strong theory on it. But to me it makes sense that it would, or more so could. That's why I wouldn't mind if it was banned all together. Better safe than sorry I say.
__________________
God bless the USA...
www.bowfishnebraska.org
obert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 09:02 PM   #19 (permalink)
Member
 
DiggerDog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: At home, in the field, in a blind, in a boat, at our cabin, on a plane, or in a hotel room
Posts: 454
Thanks: 14
Thanked 15 Times in 12 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by obert View Post
Just from what I understand in reading, is there is no proof that it does. There is only a strong theory on it. But to me it makes sense that it would, or more so could. That's why I wouldn't mind if it was banned all together. Better safe than sorry I say.

If it does spread disease I would agree with your wishful ban.
__________________
"When you have shot one bird flying you have shot all birds flying. They are all different and they fly in different ways but the sensation is the same and the last one is as good as the first."
- Ernest Hemingway
DiggerDog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 09:06 PM   #20 (permalink)
Member
 
obert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: W. Omaha
Posts: 1,739
Thanks: 33
Thanked 28 Times in 20 Posts
Default

I'm not an expert DD, but what bigquack posted I have read quite a bit. The nose to nose contact causes the spread of the disease. That I believe is a fact. Baiting increases that chance, also I think that's a fact. But everything I've read has said that it's never been proven that baiting is a direct cause of the spread of disease. But if nose to nose causes the spread and baiting causes nose to nose contact, well then it makes sense to me that we shouldnt' bait. But that's only my opinion on it, I know a lot of others don't agree.
__________________
God bless the USA...
www.bowfishnebraska.org
obert is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:49 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0
Nebraska Fish and Game Association