Pictures Age this deer..Please - Page 2

fearnofish · 08-03-2008, 04:28 PM

yea i wish we had more pics to look at then that but i am still saying the same thing. Now for that buck on your page I think that deer is in the same class and it amazes me the game and parks aged him at 1 1/2. What station did they age him at?

obert · 08-03-2008, 04:37 PM

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Me and mr. flatcoats dont agree on a lot of things but hey he is like 18 years old and its kinda like that song back when I knew it all

. I would like to see a pic of him broadside.

Maybe if you asked flatcoats real nice he'd take a broadside pic for you.

fearnofish · 08-03-2008, 04:41 PM

Yeah but flatcoats isnt very good looking so I am told

I would be able to tell a lot more if I had a broadside pic of that first buck. Its hard to tell from those angles

How old do you think he is obert

fearnofish · 08-03-2008, 04:43 PM

hunter how old do you the game and parks aged the deer in my avatar?

obert · 08-03-2008, 04:46 PM

Ah, the deer...

I'd say 2 1/2. Judging mostly by body shape/muscle. Going to be a nice deer regardless. Either way he's got a huge potential upside if left another year or two. Great pic husk.

Hunter · 08-03-2008, 04:48 PM

It did not say where the deer was checked in at in the other thread so I don't know the answer to your question.

As for your deer.... with just the head there is no way to even guess what the age would have been. Like was said before aging by antlers is not the way to do it. I will take a guess on what you are going to tell us though.

I will say you are going to tell us either 4 1/2 or 5 1/2. In no way am I saying that is what I think it was because there is no way to tell from just your head mount.

nehunter88 · 08-03-2008, 04:48 PM

It would be a little easier if he had a body.

Do you have a broadside picture?

fearnofish · 08-03-2008, 05:00 PM

He was aged as a yearling

just joken. He was aged as 5 1/2 and he didnt have a sway back or any of that.. I have film of this buck and he looked like a streamline racehorse. My point is not all of these bucks are going to all possess the same qualities , kinda like people. Saying when a deer reaches 4 1/2 he is going to have sway back, big rounded belly and all that is like saying when a person reaches 50 were all going to have grey hair, and hunch backs. You cant really age a deer by just looking at them, the only way is to look at their molars.

Hunter · 08-03-2008, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by fearnofish

You cant really age a deer by just looking at them, the only way is to look at their molars.

This is true but since I have yet to meet a deer that will come sit in dentist chair for me before I shoot him; I have to go by the characteristics 'most' deer will show when they have some age on them.

fearnofish · 08-03-2008, 05:10 PM

that is true but infact the one in my avatar I took him to the dentist first and he had a few cavities

then the dentist told me well hell that guy is 5 1/2. Yeah man what it boils down to is a shooter is a shooter. Only the hunter can decide that. To a guy and his kid a shooter might be a forkhorn and I have no problem with that. To me a shooter is 150 and up. Dont get me wrong I have shot many 130s when I first started hunting. But as you grow as a hunter at least I didnt see the point in shooting little bucks. The buck in the beginning of this thread in my opinion is not a shooter but he will next year

obert · 08-03-2008, 05:14 PM

Unless you are tagging a deer at birth there is no fool proof way to age the deer that I know of with trail cam pics and in the stand/field. So this is all a guess. The characteristics mentioned should give a person a pretty good guess. Just like humans. If i see a little old lady with blue hair, saggy jugs and removind her teeth I'm going to guess her to be 60+. Doesn't mean that is the case, but it's a pretty good guestimate. My judgements are on a "more than likely" scenario.

fearnofish · 08-03-2008, 05:18 PM

Hey man my mom is 60 and she dont look like that

thats what I talkin about.

nehunter88 · 08-03-2008, 05:23 PM

But being able to age a live deer is important, it's not just about the size of the antlers. Say you have a dink with a lousy rack, but by looking at him you can tell he's 4 or 5. If you were willing, this would be a good buck to take out of the system to remove his poor genetics. If he is 4 or 5 with a small rack, then clearly this is not a deer you want breeding a bunch of does. Sometimes to improve the quality of our bucks we need to weed out the poor quality older bucks.

fearnofish · 08-03-2008, 05:28 PM

That is true, but we need to let the little young ones walk. LOL

nehunter88 · 08-03-2008, 05:35 PM

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That is true, but we need to let the little young ones walk. LOL

So it's not just the dinks or basketracks, it's age that's important.

Hunter · 08-03-2008, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by nehunter88

So it's not just the dinks or basketracks, it's age that's important.

Go read over the link I posted earlier. I agree with the guy about the best thing for the herd is getting it back in line ratio wise.

fearnofish · 08-03-2008, 05:41 PM

yep we got to kill lots of doe's but we also gotta let the young studs walk. A buck does not reach full maturity till 4 1/2. Let em go so he can grow!

flatcoats · 08-03-2008, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by fearnofish

Yeah but flatcoats isnt very good looking so I am told

I would be able to tell a lot more if I had a broadside pic of that first buck. Its hard to tell from those angles

How old do you think he is obert

as we've all come to expect...no class. but that does seem to be a common trend to people with 200 posts in 20 days, not much else to do with their life.

fearnofish · 08-03-2008, 05:45 PM

actually i have a son and he takes naps their teanybopper, once you have kids and a life you will realize you cant always go out and fish!

flatcoats · 08-03-2008, 05:59 PM

this teeny bopper is just a lil big bigger than you little baby pooper scooper, dont forget it. when do you want to arrange that mutt against my setter anyways? since all you can muster up is name calling and all.

08-03-2008, 04:46 PM	#25 (permalink)
obert Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: W. Omaha Posts: 1,622 Thanks: 18 Thanked 17 Times in 15 Posts	Ah, the deer... I'd say 2 1/2. Judging mostly by body shape/muscle. Going to be a nice deer regardless. Either way he's got a huge potential upside if left another year or two. Great pic husk. __________________ God bless the USA... www.bowfishnebraska.org

08-03-2008, 04:48 PM	#26 (permalink)
Hunter Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 144 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	It did not say where the deer was checked in at in the other thread so I don't know the answer to your question. As for your deer.... with just the head there is no way to even guess what the age would have been. Like was said before aging by antlers is not the way to do it. I will take a guess on what you are going to tell us though. I will say you are going to tell us either 4 1/2 or 5 1/2. In no way am I saying that is what I think it was because there is no way to tell from just your head mount. Last edited by Hunter; 08-03-2008 at 04:50 PM.

08-03-2008, 04:48 PM	#27 (permalink)
nehunter88 Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 141 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It would be a little easier if he had a body. Do you have a broadside picture? __________________ Whoever said cats always land on their feet wasn't throwing them right.-Anonymous

08-03-2008, 05:14 PM	#31 (permalink)
obert Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: W. Omaha Posts: 1,622 Thanks: 18 Thanked 17 Times in 15 Posts	Unless you are tagging a deer at birth there is no fool proof way to age the deer that I know of with trail cam pics and in the stand/field. So this is all a guess. The characteristics mentioned should give a person a pretty good guess. Just like humans. If i see a little old lady with blue hair, saggy jugs and removind her teeth I'm going to guess her to be 60+. Doesn't mean that is the case, but it's a pretty good guestimate. My judgements are on a "more than likely" scenario. __________________ God bless the USA... www.bowfishnebraska.org

08-03-2008, 05:18 PM	#32 (permalink)
fearnofish Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 515 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hey man my mom is 60 and she dont look like thatthats what I talkin about.

08-03-2008, 04:28 PM	#21 (permalink)
fearnofish Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 515 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	yea i wish we had more pics to look at then that but i am still saying the same thing. Now for that buck on your page I think that deer is in the same class and it amazes me the game and parks aged him at 1 1/2. What station did they age him at?

08-03-2008, 04:41 PM	#23 (permalink)
fearnofish Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 515 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yeah but flatcoats isnt very good looking so I am told I would be able to tell a lot more if I had a broadside pic of that first buck. Its hard to tell from those angles How old do you think he is obert

08-03-2008, 04:43 PM	#24 (permalink)
fearnofish Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 515 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	hunter how old do you the game and parks aged the deer in my avatar?

08-03-2008, 05:00 PM	#28 (permalink)
fearnofish Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 515 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	He was aged as a yearling just joken. He was aged as 5 1/2 and he didnt have a sway back or any of that.. I have film of this buck and he looked like a streamline racehorse. My point is not all of these bucks are going to all possess the same qualities , kinda like people. Saying when a deer reaches 4 1/2 he is going to have sway back, big rounded belly and all that is like saying when a person reaches 50 were all going to have grey hair, and hunch backs. You cant really age a deer by just looking at them, the only way is to look at their molars.

08-03-2008, 05:10 PM	#30 (permalink)
fearnofish Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 515 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	that is true but infact the one in my avatar I took him to the dentist first and he had a few cavities then the dentist told me well hell that guy is 5 1/2. Yeah man what it boils down to is a shooter is a shooter. Only the hunter can decide that. To a guy and his kid a shooter might be a forkhorn and I have no problem with that. To me a shooter is 150 and up. Dont get me wrong I have shot many 130s when I first started hunting. But as you grow as a hunter at least I didnt see the point in shooting little bucks. The buck in the beginning of this thread in my opinion is not a shooter but he will next year

08-03-2008, 05:23 PM	#33 (permalink)
nehunter88 Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 141 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	But being able to age a live deer is important, it's not just about the size of the antlers. Say you have a dink with a lousy rack, but by looking at him you can tell he's 4 or 5. If you were willing, this would be a good buck to take out of the system to remove his poor genetics. If he is 4 or 5 with a small rack, then clearly this is not a deer you want breeding a bunch of does. Sometimes to improve the quality of our bucks we need to weed out the poor quality older bucks. __________________ Whoever said cats always land on their feet wasn't throwing them right.-Anonymous

08-03-2008, 05:28 PM	#34 (permalink)
fearnofish Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 515 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	That is true, but we need to let the little young ones walk. LOL

08-03-2008, 05:41 PM	#37 (permalink)
fearnofish Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 515 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	yep we got to kill lots of doe's but we also gotta let the young studs walk. A buck does not reach full maturity till 4 1/2. Let em go so he can grow!

08-03-2008, 05:45 PM	#39 (permalink)
fearnofish Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 515 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	actually i have a son and he takes naps their teanybopper, once you have kids and a life you will realize you cant always go out and fish!

08-03-2008, 05:59 PM	#40 (permalink)
flatcoats Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: omaha Posts: 1,206 Thanks: 2 Thanked 20 Times in 14 Posts	this teeny bopper is just a lil big bigger than you little baby pooper scooper, dont forget it. when do you want to arrange that mutt against my setter anyways? since all you can muster up is name calling and all.

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