Fishing Reg changes approved!

[Harold]

From "Bumpus Bites":

Changes to 2010 Fishing Regulations Approved

LINCOLN, Neb. – The Nebraska Game and Parks Board of Commissioners approved amendments to the 2010 fishing regulations Thursday, including one that prohibits the harvest of wipers at Zorinsky Lake.

Stocking of wipers into the Omaha lake has begun, so they may prey on abundant gizzard shad. The regulation should reduce premature harvest of small wipers to allow them to eat shad and grow, so they eventually may be caught several times during their lives.

Other regulation changes are:

-- Iron Horse Trail Lake is added to the list of waters with a 21-inch minimum length limit on black bass.
-- The new walleye spawning reef habitat at Sherman Reservoir is included in the area closed to fishing from sunset to sunrise, April 1 - 20.
-- Blue Lake in Garden County is closed to access during the November firearm deer season.
-- It is unlawful to possess live baitfish at Hedgefield Lake in Lancaster County. The lake is being rehabilitated, and the goal of the regulation is to reduce introduction of undesirable fish.
-- It is unlawful to possess live baitfish at Lake Wanahoo in Saunders County. The lake is being built, and the watershed will be treated with rotenone in the fall of 2009 to eliminate existing fish. The goal of the regulation is to reduce introduction of undesirable fish.
-- The following have been added to a list of waters managed as High Use Fishing Areas: Open Fields and Waters program lakes and ponds, Big Springs City Pond, Birdwood Lake in North Platte, Friend City Lake, Hedgefield Lake, Hooper City Lake, Humphrey Pond in Ogallala, Kramer Park Lake in Bellevue, Lake Wanahoo, North Platte Interstate 80 Lake, Oxford City Lake, Papio D4, Schwer Park Pond in Papillion, Silver Creek City Lake, and Stanton Lake in Falls City.

The regulations for High Use Fishing Areas are: 21-inch minimum length limit and one-fish daily bag limit on black bass, 10-fish daily bag limit on panfish, and three-fish daily bag limit on channel catfish.

-- Regarding bait collection and dealer regulations, the maximum legal opening size of a baitfish trap throat increased from 1.5 to 2 inches.

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[bluelund]

With the increases in prices continuing to go up, I wonder how many folks will invest in the life-time permits before the end of the year...... I know I'm thinking more seriously about one.

[Harold]

Copied from the "Bumpus Bites" post:

Hopefully, no one is "mis-reading" the entry:

Quote:
In an effort to raise funds that will do such things as acquire land, support public access programs and improve habitat, the board raised the cost of an annual Nebraska Habitat Stamp by $4 to $20. It also raised the annual Nebraska Aquatic Habitat Stamp by $2.50 to $10.

From $16 to $20 and $7.50 to $10.00.

Harold F.

"Happiness is owning a LIFETIME Habitat and Aquatic Stamp!"
The opportunity is there to "beat the price increase", I believe.

[snowgoose100]

No minnows at 2 more lakes.Thats 2 lakes off my to fish list.Im losing lakes 1 after another.That is really is to bad about Wanahoo because I was up there and it really looks like it could be a nice lake.At this rate in a few years I wont have to buy a liscense because there wont be any lakes left for me to fish.Oh well it wil save me a ton.

[south of 41]

SURE SEEMS LIKE NO MINNOW REGS INCOURAGE INTRODUCTIONS OF THE sHAD


Lets just Throw in some shad and wipers and call it a day

[Fish On]

Or just toss the wipers in knowing shad will show up anyway. This way the more pelagic wiper will be somewhat established and keep the shad in check before a problem arises, maybe. I'm assuming that shad are in the watershed already.

Anyone know how far "upstream" they went with the rotenone treatment (s)?

[WalterPayton34]

Originally Posted by snowgoose100

No minnows at 2 more lakes.Thats 2 lakes off my to fish list.Im losing lakes 1 after another.That is really is to bad about Wanahoo because I was up there and it really looks like it could be a nice lake.At this rate in a few years I wont have to buy a liscense because there wont be any lakes left for me to fish.Oh well it wil save me a ton.

I think it's dumb to make a lake of that size no bait fish. I have never fished a lake that I thought was hurt by the use of bait fish.

[Fish On]

Originally Posted by Fish On

Or just toss the wipers in knowing shad will show up anyway. This way the more pelagic wiper will be somewhat established and keep the shad in check before a problem arises, maybe. I'm assuming that shad are in the watershed already.

Anyone know how far "upstream" they went with the rotenone treatment (s)?

As far as they could go. They treated every bit of water in the watershed that they could get to and that they were allowed to treat.

The renovation, the no live baitfish restrictions, none of those management techniques are guaranteed to work, but we try to do as much as possible to keep the undesirables out. That is why some of us are really sensitive about folks moving fish around.

Daryl Bauer
Fisheries Outreach Program Manager
Nebraska Game & Parks Commission
daryl.bauer@nebraska.gov
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[snowgoose100]

I really DISLIKE this regulation.Its not that hard to see that it doesnt work.I was Holmes other day to try for trout and the minnows are everywhere along the bank.I cant imagine the minnow that gets off my hook and survives is going to affect the out come much.Fish are carnivours but because some idiot MIGHT dump a bucket of minnows that has a bullhead or carp in it(which is illegal anyways) no baitfish allowed..Something about puttting a wax worm on a tipup instead of a minnow just really bugs me.Sure Canada has the regulation but they have WATER and FISH.If you wanna test it fine do 1 or 2 lakes not evry redone lake.It obviously didnt work on Wagontrain.

[Harold]

some idiot MIGHT dump a bucket of minnows that has a bullhead or carp in it

Why even attempt to keep minnows alive? Freeze 'em, and you can use them EVERYWHERE!

Harold F.

[bassinoutwest]

Originally Posted by Harold

Why even attempt to keep minnows alive? Freeze 'em, and you can use them EVERYWHERE!

Harold F.

everything hits those little crappie tube jigs...or the old 'mariboo jigs'...tipped with a pre-frozen (=DEAD) minnow...they catch even more fish...

can work them on a 'float n fly' approach or just toss it out and work it back...

don't just have to suspend an impaled wiggling minnow under a bobber...


But I get the point from the folks who are disappointed with this reg...

[south of 41]

Originally Posted by Harold

Why even attempt to keep minnows alive? Freeze 'em, and you can use them EVERYWHERE!

Harold F.

Come on Harold a frozen minnow is like kissin you sister

No action or flash to a frozen minnow. I would use gulp live minnow before i went to a frozen dead minnow

Personally i dont buy the no live bait being that beneficial . Dont think trash fish come from bait vender's.

Private waters upstream and fish hatcheries oversite are the problem.

Where i have big problems is a crappie fishery with a no live bait fish reg

Kind of like paying a farmer to let people hunt his disked roundup ready bean field if you ask me.....

[drcarplove]

i have bank fished all my life using jigs, and also in my canoe and my dad's boat and, except for night fishing under a lantern, i have never been outfished by anyone using minnows for crappie. The no live baitfish restriction to me seems only hurts the flathead fisherman.

frank

[Fish On]

[QUOTE=snowgoose100;257942].Something about puttting a wax worm on a tipup instead of a minnow just really bugs me.QUOTE]

Ice fishing crappies, live minnows are nice to have.

[whitetips]

I started to send PM's to folks in this thread; then thought twice about it. That would be too much work. So here it is . . .

Nope, live baitfish restrictions do not work, folks ignore bag limits and length limits, heck, lots of them do not even bother to buy fishing permits. What's the use? Every man for himself!

There I go being sarcastic again. Sorry, but sometimes that seems to be the best way to make a point.

Every time we do a rotenone renovation we literally spend thousands of dollars on chemical, man-power and equipment. Those would be thousands of YOUR angler dollars. I will readily admit that we will never kill the last carp, gizzard shad, or white perch. In many cases we are simply trying to knock the undesirable species back so we can get the more desirable sport fish species established and on top of any undesirables that might re-invade.

Once we put the money and effort into the rotenone renovation and re-stocking, why wouldn't we do everything possible to protect our, no let me rephrase that, YOUR investment?

I have seen a darned lot of things in bait shop minnow tanks and minnow buckets that were NOT baitfish. If you allow the use of live baitfish, it is really easy for those things to get dumped in the water. Will some fish re-invade from the watershed? Yep. I wish we could absolutely control 100% of that too, but we cannot. Will some water-head purposely re-stock fish for us, even fish that we know are harmful? Yep. I wish we could inflict a fish pox on every one of those folks too, but we cannot. We try the best we can, try to control what we can, have to "takes our chances" with the rest.

I love to catch crappies by soaking a live minnow underneath a float as much as the next guy or gal. But, I have also learned that here in the 21st century we have a lot of options available for catching fish, and sometimes you can find some other presentation that will catch fish just as well, maybe even better than the ole bobber and minnow.

The live baitfish restrictions are hardest on flathead anglers? Are you kidding me? It has been years since I have used live bait to catch flatheads. Here is the latest example,



(Sorry, gotta take every chance I get to show off that fish).

Daryl Bauer
Fisheries Outreach Program Manager
Nebraska Game & Parks Commission
daryl.bauer@nebraska.gov
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[Shorty]

Originally Posted by 8LB

They need to be fired by "We the people" and hire some new ones who are angler friendly.

Unfortunately NGPC Commissioners are appointed by the Governor for six year terms rather than being elected by "we the people". If elected the could be held accountable to "we the people".

Interesting that the NGPC did NOT seek public input from "we the people" on this years regulation changes.

[Harold]

Your wrong

Um, sorry to correct you, but that should be "You're wrong".

Harold F.

[thedarkarcher]

oh snap!

[Shorty]

Thanks Daryl!

In Reply to your post #258012
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shorty
Interesting that the NGPC did NOT seek public input from "we the people" on this years regulation changes.

We are working on the process. We will be implementing a process where we will notify folks of proposed regulation changes and they will have an opportunity to give us some feedback. You can consider this an excuse from one of your "worthless" government employees if you want, but we were not able to do that this year because of issues with our website.

We will do better in the future.

Daryl B.

P.S. Please feel free to share this message with others.

Daryl, let me just say that you are an extremely valuable part of the NGPC and this forum. You would be extremely hard to replace should you ever decide leave Nebraska, "worthless" is a term I would never use with you and IMO we could use more government employees like you.



PS - I have had a few issues with my computer as well this year.

[south of 41]

Hummmmm

After a close look at that Flathead It looks to me like it was foul hooked in the tail

I also notice that big bad boy came from a live bait lake.

Snowgoose100 you think those flats are so big cuz all the live bait you been dumping over the years?????