Big Alkali Fish Camp Rant - Page 3

Evenflow · 05-23-2008, 12:28 PM

Maybe the operators of this site can create a new "Rant" forum, I'm getting sick of seeing all of these posts like this! Then to add fuel to the fire every person has to comment on every little aspect of your post "you kept how many fish", "you should have asked permission", "that would be illegal", etc. etc. Can't the fishing forum be just fishing reports or fishing related questions. There is my rant! Some of you need to get off of the computer, quite your b*tching and go fishing!

Bennington Bandit · 05-23-2008, 12:35 PM

mrcold · 05-23-2008, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish Recycler

You know those gross county park outhouses? Someone has to clean them, and it's a brown-shirt park ranger type. Show 'em some love.

Is it ok if I just give em a

from a distance...cause...well...

That's too bad to hear about the experience...I didn't have a bad experience with the owners up there, just with the cabins and that lake. I was under the impression the lake and the fish cleaning station were public, so I'd have probably been in the same boat(pun intended)...well, except I don't keep fish. Three words for ya (well, 3.5 with the contraction)...

"Lord's Ranch Resort"

Harold · 05-23-2008, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evenflow

Maybe the operators of this site can create a new "Rant" forum, I'm getting sick of seeing all of these posts like this! Then to add fuel to the fire every person has to comment on every little aspect of your post "you kept how many fish", "you should have asked permission", "that would be illegal", etc. etc. Can't the fishing forum be just fishing reports or fishing related questions. There is my rant! Some of you need to get off of the computer, quite your b*tching and go fishing!

I hope not! Besides, I wouldn't have been able to enjoy YOUR opinion on this thread!

I found this:

NGPC FAQ's: Big Alkali Lake renovation

that should answer a lot of questions.

Harold F.

Pro-Hunt · 05-23-2008, 01:15 PM

Yep; the game and parks is paying for the renovations so if I am up there I WILL use the cleaning station if I am staying there or not!!

Fishingnerd33 · 05-23-2008, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pro-Hunt

Yep; the game and parks is paying for the renovations so if I am up there I WILL use the cleaning station if I am staying there or not!!

That's what I've been thinking from the beginning. I'm paying for part of the renovations through park sticker, fishing license, habitat stamp. End of story in my head.

tmn515 · 05-23-2008, 03:18 PM

In my opinion, I don't think the guy had any right to be like that. From what I have seen of his posts throughout my time on the board, Nerd is a great guy. At the the very least, the guy could have been a hell of a lot more respectful towards Nerd and his family.

I actually like these kinds of posts. What is wrong with a guy telling of his expereinces and giving an opinion?

Everyone at some time in life is in the wrong, but does that constitute somone coming up and giving you hell instead of being more civil and trying to make a right instead of making things a whole lot worse?

Troy

Wirenut · 05-23-2008, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wneb.fisher

I am with Nerd on this one. I don't know why everyone is jumping him about the legality of using a fish cleaning station. I understand that it may not have been public and maybe permission should have been granted, but from past experience he was doing what he knew. This is human nature. I think we just need to drop it. Nerd was simply stating his experience there in the hopes that if anybody else should go there to check things out before assuming what is for public use and what is private. It is something that can be used for all of our benefit. We live and learn from other's experiences. What is done is done and there is nothing we can do now about. There is no rewind button.

There has been some great advice put on this post about how to treat establishment owners and for that, thank you, but don't critisize nerd for something he really did not have any control over. Take it in and learn from it.

Wasn't trying to attack Nerd, just making him aware. Not trying to defend the cabin owner either, just trying to see his point of view.

Steelhead · 05-23-2008, 03:49 PM

Whomever posted the question on the NGPC FAQ board, the answer is there now.

wneb.fisher · 05-23-2008, 03:56 PM

Wirenut, I'm not trying to come back at ya and sorry if it came across like that. Just sounding off I guess. That is what makes this forum great. We are all entitled to an opinion. I can see where you are coming from though. I am really glad Nerd posted this. I would be interested to hear if anybody else has an encounter like this at Alkali.

Fish On · 05-23-2008, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steelhead

Whomever posted the question on the NGPC FAQ board, the answer is ther now.

Might as well put it up here....

Author Topic: Big Alkali staff
staff
Member # 11077

posted May 23, 2008 01:51 PMMay 23, 2008 01:51 PM

Question: Is the fish cleaning station at Big Alkali for public use or just for the people staying at the cabins?

Answer: The fish cleaning station is for public use. Posts: 230 | Registered: Jan 2002 | IP: Logged

mrcold · 05-23-2008, 04:17 PM

So the correct response, Nerd, would be "Back off, it's just as much my lake and cleaning station as yours." Sounds like that would've gone pretty well for ya, too.

redhawk · 05-23-2008, 04:34 PM

I've never been up there but from what I can gather

a. the lake is public domain owned, manintained and managed by G&P
b. unbeknowst to many the fish cleaning station is owned and maintained by G&P
c. the cabins are owned, maintained and managed by a private individual.

It that correct?

fishingman · 05-23-2008, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redhawk

I've never been up there but from what I can gather

a. the lake is public domain owned, manintained and managed by G&P
b. unbeknowst to many the fish cleaning station is owned and maintained by G&P
c. the cabins are owned, maintained and managed by a private individual.

It that correct?

Obviously a grumpy individual

buck2die · 05-23-2008, 05:51 PM

I posted the question to the NGPC. I got the answer that I expected too. I have never targeted the crappies while I make my bi-annual trip to the refuge. I have on rare ocassion stopped and used the cleaning station while vistiting friend that tent there. I may make it a point to stop there everytime I'm up at the refuge just to take my limit of crappies and stop bye on the way out and mention how great the crappie fishing was! I have stoppped many times and bought ice, food, tackle, ect... from the office there and haven't stayed at the cabins for several years now. I give him my business in that way. I hope anyone that gets disrespected and harrased like this let's the rest of us know about it. If enough people get treated this way maybe we could voice an opinion somehow to him that he will take to heart. I noticed on the fish camp website he is really promoting this lake as if he hopes it becomes just another Branched Oak or Johnsons. Talks about skiing and that sort of water recreation. I hope to god I don't live to see the day when I take a picture of a buddies fish and someone is in the back ground skiing or riding a jet ski. To me, if the price of having a fish camp there is to promote water skiing and stuff. Close the camp!! I whole heartedly support you Nerd!!!!!

Wirenut · 05-23-2008, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wneb.fisher

Wirenut, I'm not trying to come back at ya and sorry if it came across like that. Just sounding off I guess. That is what makes this forum great. We are all entitled to an opinion. I can see where you are coming from though. I am really glad Nerd posted this. I would be interested to hear if anybody else has an encounter like this at Alkali.

cmichel84 · 05-24-2008, 04:07 PM

I was just up there after you were.... he and his familly treated us very well.... that being said, I think the way he treated you was bs..... Im certain that the state owns the entire lake and all the facilities on the property, as of a few years ago.... the state only pays him to manage it and allows him to profit from it.... not sure what kind of contract they have but, I know they paid for the new restroom/shower houses, and renovation of all the cabins, along with the rv pads and el hookups. you might want to express your concern with the state.

jimbosan · 05-24-2008, 05:24 PM

I would have kicked his ***!

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05-23-2008, 12:28 PM	#41 (permalink)
Evenflow Evenflow is Wishing I was not at work Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Omaha Posts: 503 Thanks: 38 Thanked 112 Times in 54 Posts	Maybe the operators of this site can create a new "Rant" forum, I'm getting sick of seeing all of these posts like this! Then to add fuel to the fire every person has to comment on every little aspect of your post "you kept how many fish", "you should have asked permission", "that would be illegal", etc. etc. Can't the fishing forum be just fishing reports or fishing related questions. There is my rant! Some of you need to get off of the computer, quite your b*tching and go fishing!

05-23-2008, 01:15 PM	#45 (permalink)
Pro-Hunt Pro-Hunt has no status. Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Superior, NE Posts: 149 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yep; the game and parks is paying for the renovations so if I am up there I WILL use the cleaning station if I am staying there or not!!

05-23-2008, 03:18 PM	#47 (permalink)
tmn515 tmn515 is fishing Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lincoln, NE NEFGA Line Recycling Volunteer Posts: 1,723 Thanks: 645 Thanked 320 Times in 267 Posts	In my opinion, I don't think the guy had any right to be like that. From what I have seen of his posts throughout my time on the board, Nerd is a great guy. At the the very least, the guy could have been a hell of a lot more respectful towards Nerd and his family. I actually like these kinds of posts. What is wrong with a guy telling of his expereinces and giving an opinion? Everyone at some time in life is in the wrong, but does that constitute somone coming up and giving you hell instead of being more civil and trying to make a right instead of making things a whole lot worse? Troy

05-23-2008, 03:56 PM	#50 (permalink)
wneb.fisher wneb.fisher is lovin the new ride!! Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chadron, NE Posts: 314 Thanks: 139 Thanked 102 Times in 47 Posts	Wirenut, I'm not trying to come back at ya and sorry if it came across like that. Just sounding off I guess. That is what makes this forum great. We are all entitled to an opinion. I can see where you are coming from though. I am really glad Nerd posted this. I would be interested to hear if anybody else has an encounter like this at Alkali.

05-23-2008, 04:17 PM	#52 (permalink)
mrcold mrcold is busy offending people. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 646 Thanks: 86 Thanked 92 Times in 59 Posts	So the correct response, Nerd, would be "Back off, it's just as much my lake and cleaning station as yours." Sounds like that would've gone pretty well for ya, too.

05-23-2008, 04:34 PM	#53 (permalink)
redhawk redhawk has no status. Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SE Nebraska Posts: 86 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I've never been up there but from what I can gather a. the lake is public domain owned, manintained and managed by G&P b. unbeknowst to many the fish cleaning station is owned and maintained by G&P c. the cabins are owned, maintained and managed by a private individual. It that correct?

05-23-2008, 05:51 PM	#55 (permalink)
buck2die buck2die has no status. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Millard Posts: 221 Thanks: 4 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	I posted the question to the NGPC. I got the answer that I expected too. I have never targeted the crappies while I make my bi-annual trip to the refuge. I have on rare ocassion stopped and used the cleaning station while vistiting friend that tent there. I may make it a point to stop there everytime I'm up at the refuge just to take my limit of crappies and stop bye on the way out and mention how great the crappie fishing was! I have stoppped many times and bought ice, food, tackle, ect... from the office there and haven't stayed at the cabins for several years now. I give him my business in that way. I hope anyone that gets disrespected and harrased like this let's the rest of us know about it. If enough people get treated this way maybe we could voice an opinion somehow to him that he will take to heart. I noticed on the fish camp website he is really promoting this lake as if he hopes it becomes just another Branched Oak or Johnsons. Talks about skiing and that sort of water recreation. I hope to god I don't live to see the day when I take a picture of a buddies fish and someone is in the back ground skiing or riding a jet ski. To me, if the price of having a fish camp there is to promote water skiing and stuff. Close the camp!! I whole heartedly support you Nerd!!!!!

05-24-2008, 04:07 PM	#57 (permalink)
cmichel84 cmichel84 has no status. Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I was just up there after you were.... he and his familly treated us very well.... that being said, I think the way he treated you was bs..... Im certain that the state owns the entire lake and all the facilities on the property, as of a few years ago.... the state only pays him to manage it and allows him to profit from it.... not sure what kind of contract they have but, I know they paid for the new restroom/shower houses, and renovation of all the cabins, along with the rv pads and el hookups. you might want to express your concern with the state.