Question Jet Skiing on the Missouri

benelli32 · 06-25-2009, 07:19 AM

My Dad and I were invited to ride a friends jet ski from dodge park all the way up to Sioux City. We've never done this before and actually we haven't done much boating on the mo. So we have no clue what were doing. Our friend has done it a couple times before and says he knows how to do it. My question is how many miles is it? And will all this rain affect the river? Like I said we haven't done any boating on the mo.

Scott Eveland · 06-25-2009, 07:39 AM

There is a lot of planning and forethought that needs to go into a distance ride like that--especially one going UPstream. Fueling, rest points, what to do if you have mechanical problems, how to contact help, etc.

I'm not too familiar with the MO, but I'm sure rain will effect its flows. The few times I've been on it, I have seen it full of debris from recent rains.

NP Dodge Park is at MM 627 and Sioux City is at 732, so you're looking at a 105 mile ride, upstream.

Here is a helpful map:

Upper Missouri River Navigation Map

obert · 06-25-2009, 07:41 AM

I thought the govt. banned pwc on the Missou? Is that not in effect anymore?

Scott Eveland · 06-25-2009, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by obert

I thought the govt. banned pwc on the Missou? Is that not in effect anymore?

That is only on the part of the Missou designated as a "National Recreational River," of which the area from Sioux City downstream is not (actually it ends at Ponca SP).

Missouri National Recreational River (U.S. National Park Service)

http://www.nps.gov/mnrr/planyourvisi...d/MNRRmap1.pdf

Why are personal watercraft (jet skis) prohibited on park waters? Missouri National Recreational River is both a unit of the National Park System (like Yellowstone NP and Gettysburg NMP) and a part of the National Wild and Scenic Rivers System. The National Park Service banned personal watercraft on the waters of the National Park System effective April 20, 2000. There are only a few exceptions to this nationwide ban.

obert · 06-25-2009, 10:11 AM

Thanks for the info. I wasn't sure how that all worked. 105 miles upstream. That would be one heck of a trip.

benelli32 · 06-25-2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by obert

105 miles upstream. That would be one heck of a trip.

More like 210 miles, because were coming all the way back. What are the marina's between omaha and sioux city incase we have any problems?

Scott Eveland · 06-25-2009, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by benelli32

More like 210 miles, because were coming all the way back. What are the marina's between omaha and sioux city incase we have any problems?

Click on that map I linked to above. It shows you.

benelli32 · 06-25-2009, 11:57 AM

Just saw that maybe I should have looked before I typed

obert · 06-25-2009, 02:27 PM

Good lord man, take a 5 gallon bucket of sunscreen too. Have fun.

flathead_hunter · 06-25-2009, 02:44 PM

thiss might help also
http://www.nwk.usace.army.mil/rivercharts/

benelli32 · 06-25-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by flathead_hunter

thiss might help also
http://www.nwk.usace.army.mil/rivercharts/

I say that, and I am going to kinkos tonight to print off a copy.

flathead_hunter · 06-25-2009, 06:47 PM

just remember some of the dikes that are shown on here might not be there anymore.... they need to update it... i know they put in a bunch of v dikes down here that arenot shown.. not shure if there are any up north

skeeter85 · 06-25-2009, 11:43 PM

Even more than just knowing where the rest areas are, you need to know how to navigate the river. So often I see guys flying down the river at 45 miles an hour outside the channel. While most of the time they are fine, there is no guarantee that you have deep water. Wing dams tend to stick out further than what appears above the water. Review your boaters guide about following channel markings and WATCH FOR DEBRIS. The river moves fast always so the rains affect on that isn't too noticeable but heavy rains wash in and break up large amounts of trees, branches, trash and other strange objects (I've seen tires, whole deer...etc). I would highly suggest going out with someone that runs the river regularly.

Lastly, I am not telling you all this to discourage you, I just want you to do it safely. The river is a blast and you should definitely get out there (unless your one of the drunken idiots that flies past me while I'm fishing)

Alex T. · 06-26-2009, 07:21 AM

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And will all this rain affect the river?

Yes. Not only its level but all the crap that it washes down which is just as dangerous as anything else you'll have to contend with. Watch out for bloated pigs

....they're kind of yucky and startle ya when you're not really expecting one to pop up so close.

Another thing,if ya fall off,I wouldn't dilly dally about getting back to the jet ski,it'll keep moving down river and you could end up losing it.

Alex

Scott Eveland · 06-26-2009, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex T.

Watch out for bloated pigs

I'll see your bloated pig and raise you a dead bloated cow. In July.

That's what I remember from one of my few trips on that river.

Good advise Alex on getting separated from your craft. That is one fast-moving river.

thumpper · 06-26-2009, 03:27 PM

That sounds like a long haul! However if your friend has done it before obvoiusly its feasable.. I would seriously be concerned about gas!

Take some food and picnic stuff in a 'softcase' cooler. It should be a good time however for a first trip I'm not sure I would venture that far.

We racked up 60miles in an afternoon and I thought that was a lot of miles..

benelli32 · 06-26-2009, 05:15 PM

Well the trip was a succes

We only had one little hiccup, our friend took one of the batteries out to charge it, but the charger didnt work. We got a new battery and were on the water. We cruised up to Blair, and met up with another friend. Then we all cruised the river and actually never made it to Sioux city. But in all we did 227 miles today. If any one else ever wants to do a trip like this, take some advil before you leave, your backside will thank later. It goes numb after the first 100 miles then all is good. Thanks everyone for all the info and help.

benelli32 · 06-26-2009, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex T.

Watch out for bloated pigs

We ran across 2 bloated deer and what must of bean a 50+ pound kittie, that thing was nasty to.

Jump n Fish · 06-28-2009, 07:25 AM

Wow, I've never been a big jetski fan, but that sounds like it would be quite an adventure. I think I would enjoy something like that once or twice. It'd be like going on a long motorcycle cruise on the water.

Harold · 06-29-2009, 10:51 AM

So, WHERE ARE THE PICTURES? HMMMMMMMMMMMM?????

And I don't mean of the "bloated"!

Harold F.

(Sounds like an AMAZING adventure!

)

06-25-2009, 07:19 AM	#1 (permalink)
benelli32 benelli32 is a Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Omaha Posts: 207 Thanks: 8 Thanked 18 Times in 17 Posts	Jet Skiing on the Missouri My Dad and I were invited to ride a friends jet ski from dodge park all the way up to Sioux City. We've never done this before and actually we haven't done much boating on the mo. So we have no clue what were doing. Our friend has done it a couple times before and says he knows how to do it. My question is how many miles is it? And will all this rain affect the river? Like I said we haven't done any boating on the mo.

06-25-2009, 07:39 AM	#2 (permalink)
Scott Eveland Scott Eveland is exciting about the rising water! Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: The Water, The West, The Best Volunteer Hunter Education Instructor Certified Boating Instructor Posts: 1,456 Thanks: 218 Thanked 574 Times in 256 Posts	There is a lot of planning and forethought that needs to go into a distance ride like that--especially one going UPstream. Fueling, rest points, what to do if you have mechanical problems, how to contact help, etc. I'm not too familiar with the MO, but I'm sure rain will effect its flows. The few times I've been on it, I have seen it full of debris from recent rains. NP Dodge Park is at MM 627 and Sioux City is at 732, so you're looking at a 105 mile ride, upstream. Here is a helpful map: Upper Missouri River Navigation Map __________________

06-25-2009, 07:41 AM	#3 (permalink)
obert obert is thinking Reddogs loves figure skating. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: 100 yards from Reddoggs boat Posts: 2,635 Thanks: 153 Thanked 243 Times in 180 Posts	I thought the govt. banned pwc on the Missou? Is that not in effect anymore? __________________ I'll keep my money, my guns and my freedom and you can keep the "change."

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obert obert is thinking Reddogs loves figure skating. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: 100 yards from Reddoggs boat Posts: 2,635 Thanks: 153 Thanked 243 Times in 180 Posts	Thanks for the info. I wasn't sure how that all worked. 105 miles upstream. That would be one heck of a trip. __________________ I'll keep my money, my guns and my freedom and you can keep the "change."

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obert obert is thinking Reddogs loves figure skating. Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: 100 yards from Reddoggs boat Posts: 2,635 Thanks: 153 Thanked 243 Times in 180 Posts	Good lord man, take a 5 gallon bucket of sunscreen too. Have fun. __________________ I'll keep my money, my guns and my freedom and you can keep the "change."

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benelli32 benelli32 is a Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Omaha Posts: 207 Thanks: 8 Thanked 18 Times in 17 Posts	Just saw that maybe I should have looked before I typed

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flathead_hunter flathead_hunter is waiting for july catfishing Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: nebraska city Posts: 378 Thanks: 8 Thanked 50 Times in 38 Posts	thiss might help also http://www.nwk.usace.army.mil/rivercharts/ __________________ southeast nebraska missouri river catfish club next tournament spring 2010 4th place points team barton/ maybee. morivercats.com

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flathead_hunter flathead_hunter is waiting for july catfishing Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: nebraska city Posts: 378 Thanks: 8 Thanked 50 Times in 38 Posts	just remember some of the dikes that are shown on here might not be there anymore.... they need to update it... i know they put in a bunch of v dikes down here that arenot shown.. not shure if there are any up north __________________ southeast nebraska missouri river catfish club next tournament spring 2010 4th place points team barton/ maybee. morivercats.com

06-25-2009, 11:43 PM	#13 (permalink)
skeeter85 skeeter85 is winter blows Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Bellevue, NE Posts: 1,273 Thanks: 288 Thanked 423 Times in 269 Posts	Even more than just knowing where the rest areas are, you need to know how to navigate the river. So often I see guys flying down the river at 45 miles an hour outside the channel. While most of the time they are fine, there is no guarantee that you have deep water. Wing dams tend to stick out further than what appears above the water. Review your boaters guide about following channel markings and WATCH FOR DEBRIS. The river moves fast always so the rains affect on that isn't too noticeable but heavy rains wash in and break up large amounts of trees, branches, trash and other strange objects (I've seen tires, whole deer...etc). I would highly suggest going out with someone that runs the river regularly. Lastly, I am not telling you all this to discourage you, I just want you to do it safely. The river is a blast and you should definitely get out there (unless your one of the drunken idiots that flies past me while I'm fishing) __________________ dave Tell a man there are 100 billion stars in the universe and he will believe you. Tell a man a bench has wet paint and he'll have to touch it to be sure.

06-26-2009, 03:27 PM	#16 (permalink)
thumpper thumpper has no status. Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 372 Thanks: 4 Thanked 47 Times in 38 Posts	That sounds like a long haul! However if your friend has done it before obvoiusly its feasable.. I would seriously be concerned about gas! Take some food and picnic stuff in a 'softcase' cooler. It should be a good time however for a first trip I'm not sure I would venture that far. We racked up 60miles in an afternoon and I thought that was a lot of miles..

06-26-2009, 05:15 PM	#17 (permalink)
benelli32 benelli32 is a Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Omaha Posts: 207 Thanks: 8 Thanked 18 Times in 17 Posts	Well the trip was a succes We only had one little hiccup, our friend took one of the batteries out to charge it, but the charger didnt work. We got a new battery and were on the water. We cruised up to Blair, and met up with another friend. Then we all cruised the river and actually never made it to Sioux city. But in all we did 227 miles today. If any one else ever wants to do a trip like this, take some advil before you leave, your backside will thank later. It goes numb after the first 100 miles then all is good. Thanks everyone for all the info and help.

06-28-2009, 07:25 AM	#19 (permalink)
Jump n Fish Jump n Fish is dreamin of clear rivers and big spots Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Laurel, MS Posts: 1,331 Thanks: 613 Thanked 463 Times in 216 Posts	Wow, I've never been a big jetski fan, but that sounds like it would be quite an adventure. I think I would enjoy something like that once or twice. It'd be like going on a long motorcycle cruise on the water. __________________ We accidentally replaced your heart with a baked potato. You have about three seconds to live.

06-29-2009, 10:51 AM	#20 (permalink)
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